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Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by talldayo on Sunday December 08, 2024 @11:48AM (#42358125)
It's time to double down and hope Russia gives up Crimea like they just abandoned Syria. Even Donald Trump is not stupid enough to miss an opportunity to play his enemies against one another.
Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by scott_w on Sunday December 08, 2024 @12:47PM (#42358620)
So your answer is that we in the west “solve” the problem of Ukrainians dying defending their home by letting them be tortured, raped and murdered by Russians, unimpeded, in “peacetime” instead?
Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by instig007 on Sunday December 08, 2024 @05:01PM (#42361026)
I would buy you munitions and send you personally on the battlefield, that would be a proper answer to support your cause that wouldn't violate anyone else's preference.
Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by scott_w on Monday December 09, 2024 @01:47AM (#42363595)
Last I checked, Ukraine is choosing to fight this war, not the Americans. You might want to stop taking RT as your news source.
Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by instig007 on Monday December 09, 2024 @03:43AM (#42364178)
I think I should be insisting on sending you on the battlefield to spare those who expressed their preference to cease fire: https://news-obozrevatel-com.translate.goog/ukr/society/bils...
Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by instig007 on Monday December 09, 2024 @03:30AM (#42364108)
how did you check it?
Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by scott_w on Monday December 09, 2024 @05:33AM (#42364805)
Here's a news report: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/26/europe/ukraine-zelensky-e...

I'll translate the quote to your native language for you: Мне нужны боеприпасы, а не поездка

I apologise if it's not exact, I used Google Translate.

Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by instig007 on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @01:57PM (#42380108)
> I'll translate the quote to your native language for you

that's very presumptious of you

> Here's a news report

are you saying that CNN knows about the conditions and preferences of Ukrainians better than Ukrainians in Kiyv?

"You might want to stop taking [CNN] as your news source."

Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by scott_w on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @02:51PM (#42380698)
> are you saying that CNN knows about the conditions and preferences of Ukrainians better than Ukrainians in Kiyv?

I'm saying CNN knows more about the conditions and preferences of the Ukrainian people than you do. I've yet to see a shred of evidence for any of your insinuations.

Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by instig007 on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @09:13PM (#42383985)
> I'm saying CNN knows more about the conditions and preferences of the Ukrainian people than you do

delusional indeed, and a cowardly one

> I've yet to see a shred of evidence for any of your insinuations.

I'm yet to see you learn proper English. When shall I expect you arriving in Kiyv to volunteer straight into the war trenches?

Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by scott_w on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @01:06AM (#42385234)
When you prove to me that Ukraine wants a peace agreement that involves Russia annexing the entire country to be their personal torture chamber.
Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by instig007 on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @04:05AM (#42386069)
it's right there, in the post that you've conveniently ignored for two days: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42364178
Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by scott_w on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @05:59AM (#42386652)
> When you prove to me that Ukraine wants a peace agreement that involves Russia annexing the entire country to be their personal torture chamber.

Try again. Your post only suggests a slight majority of Kyiv residents want a "ceasefire." That's not "capitulation."

I'll let you know that I'm British so I'm familiar with news papers/sites putting up polls that tell the reader what they want the reader to hear so, just like you disregard sources, I disregarded this straw poll.

Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by instig007 on Friday December 13, 2024 @02:04AM (#42406513)
guess what, your post suggests nothing but cnn and Zelensky opinions, the latter is legally expired as a president, by the way.

> I'm British so I'm familiar with news papers/sites putting up polls that tell the reader what they want

Exactly my point, you're a delusional member of the delusional society that somehow believes that the poll in Kiyv isn't indicative of the people's preference not to exchange their lives for land anymore.

Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by sabbaticaldev on Monday December 09, 2024 @04:40AM (#42364514)
what were the options given? Boris Johnson didn’t allow ukraine to negotiate with russia but at the time everybody thought it would be a walk in the park for NATO
Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by scott_w on Monday December 09, 2024 @05:29AM (#42364774)
Boris Johnson is not the President of Ukraine. He has no power to force or prevent a negotiation with Russia.

Just in case you're confused, here's a link describing who the current President of Ukraine is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Ukraine

Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by sabbaticaldev on Monday December 09, 2024 @02:51PM (#42369824)
that’s why you guys lose elections and scream “russia stole it!”

completely out of touch of reality like a reality distortion field. screaming it louder won’t make you right.

Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by scott_w on Monday December 09, 2024 @03:42PM (#42370357)
What part of “Boris Johnson isn’t President of Ukraine” is “out of touch with reality” or “Russia stealing elections?”
Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by instig007 on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @02:11PM (#42380243)
the part where you dare to suggest that Ukrainians prefer start sending their 18 year olds on the battlefield instead of agreeing to cease fire and negotiations is completely out of touch with reality. I'll translate this to your native American English for Halwits: don't be silly, stupid.
Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by scott_w on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @01:04AM (#42385224)
1. I’m not Boris Johnson.

2. I never said any of those things.

I don’t think I’m the one struggling with English.

Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by instig007 on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @04:07AM (#42386073)
you're the one struggling with the keyboard warrior syndrome, a pathetic coward with an attitude
Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by dang on Thursday December 12, 2024 @04:39PM (#42403675)
Please don't do flamewars on HN, regardless of how wrong someone else is or you feel they are. You both broke the site guidelines badly in this thread.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to them when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by dang on Thursday December 12, 2024 @04:39PM (#42403674)
Please don't do flamewars on HN, regardless of how wrong someone else is or you feel they are. You both broke the site guidelines badly in this thread.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to them when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by aguaviva on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @02:26PM (#42380440)
Boris Johnson didn’t allow ukraine to negotiate

No, that's just a myth. Was a matter of speculation for a while, but when it got investigated, it didn't hold up.

See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41812302

Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by severino on Sunday December 08, 2024 @06:28PM (#42361659)
Are you sure about that? When Russia annexed Crimea firing a couple of shots in 2014, we couldn't see all that horror you talk about, so I don't think it would be what would happen. In fact, there's a lot of people in Eastern Ukraine that has been hoping for Russia to start this military operation.

OTOH, we have records of killings and rapes by American military personnel in Iraq when the US invaded the country back in 2003. And they did that unimpeded. Maybe you supported that invasion.

Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by dralley on Sunday December 08, 2024 @09:07PM (#42362476)
>In fact, there's a lot of people in Eastern Ukraine that has been hoping for Russia to start this military operation.

There were some, perhaps 1% to 2% of the population. There was not "a lot" and there never was.

Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by scott_w on Monday December 09, 2024 @01:45AM (#42363590)
Yes, I’m sure:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/60981238.amp

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2022/12/un-report-de...

Take your Russian propaganda back to Moscow, comrade.

Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by severino on Monday December 09, 2024 @04:22AM (#42364393)
No, you're not sure. You don't know what happened there, as it was not possible to conduct a serious investigation, and I'm not sure we will ever know. The fact that the west hasn't said a word about this again for a long time is suspicious.

Now about your last paragraph: I've never been to Moscow nor Russia, I'm a EU citizen so don't think I can take my comments anywhere. If it bothers you, maybe you can leave HN. You won't be missed.

Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by scott_w on Monday December 09, 2024 @05:36AM (#42364828)
> No, you're not sure. You don't know what happened there, as it was not possible to conduct a serious investigation, and I'm not sure we will ever know.

Yes, I am 100% sure because the reporting was widespread, accurately conducted, and the Russians were widely condemned.

Sexual violence continues in Ukraine:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/29/carved-on-bodi...

In fact, I'll save myself the effort and just give you a full list to read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_the_Russian...

> I've never been to Moscow nor Russia

I think you should visit, I hear it's lovely this time of year.