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Re:Top internet sleuths say they won't help find the UnitedH... by peepeepoopoo93 on Saturday December 07, 2024 @08:04AM (#42349532)
Never mind the tens of thousands of people that the CEO killed by wrongly denying claims. I won't condone it, but in the big picture the shooter saved lives.
Re:Top internet sleuths say they won't help find the UnitedH... by phinnaeus on Saturday December 07, 2024 @08:18AM (#42349636)
There will just be a new CEO who will continue those same practices. How can this possibly be misconstrued as something impactful upon the broken system
Re:Top internet sleuths say they won't help find the UnitedH... by vouaobrasil on Saturday December 07, 2024 @08:23AM (#42349662)
This killing can signify that people are starting to be more willing to change the system through tactical violence. And:

(a) If more CEOs are targeted, it will modify their behaviour, and make them more likely to tone down their ruthlessness.

(b) There is already a lot of news coverage and attention on the horrific nature of U.S. healthcare. If some policies change more rapidly, then I think some might consider this killing an effective action in saving hundreds of lives.

Re:Top internet sleuths say they won't help find the UnitedH... by oulipo on Saturday December 07, 2024 @08:48AM (#42349819)
Yes, and a few days after the assassination, another competing healthcare company dropped a controversial rule they were going to enforce

So it kind of worked

Re:Top internet sleuths say they won't help find the UnitedH... by throwaway48476 on Saturday December 07, 2024 @03:55PM (#42352804)
It absolutely worked.
Re:Top internet sleuths say they won't help find the UnitedH... by vouaobrasil on Monday December 09, 2024 @10:37PM (#42373473)
Which company? Do you have a source?
Re:Top internet sleuths say they won't help find the UnitedH... by oulipo on Saturday December 07, 2024 @08:48AM (#42349811)
Well at some point if all the CEOs get killed they won't find a new one to take the lead...
Re:Top internet sleuths say they won't help find the UnitedH... by pixxel on Saturday December 07, 2024 @10:07AM (#42350237)
At least they’ll think twice about walking the streets. They can hide in their castles.
Re:Top internet sleuths say they won't help find the UnitedH... by xienze on Saturday December 07, 2024 @08:33AM (#42349731)
I’ve got news for you, even in countries with socialized healthcare, not all treatments are automatically approved or approved in a timely manner. There’s ALWAYS a cost-to-benefit ratio that is considered, and it doesn’t always work out in the patient’s favor. I suppose we’d cheer the murder of say the UK’s equivalent of this CEO as well?
Re:Top internet sleuths say they won't help find the UnitedH... by op00to on Saturday December 07, 2024 @11:19AM (#42350723)
> not all treatments are automatically approved

It's not simply approval or denial. In the US, you can still get health care for conditions the insurance company decides to deny payment for after the fact. The "insured" is then financially ruined. This is so exceedingly common in the US. It's far, far, far, far, far, far, far less likely to be financially destroyed by a health issue in the UK or any other industrialized nation.

Re:Top internet sleuths say they won't help find the UnitedH... by salawat on Saturday December 07, 2024 @10:58AM (#42350560)
Does the UK's guy implement policies like mandatory first pass denial to encourage attrition, or try employing blackbox AI models to the task of denying care, and attempting to mathwash?

I've worked in the space. Most people don't care about denials that are reasonable. I.e. escalation through "lets try these first drugs" when there isn't an established history of use. Ruling out less expensive problems before approving the most expensive operation. Thise aren't generally issues.

It's capricious denials happening over and over and over again, despite well established case history. Denials that clearly don't make sense. Prior Auths being used as financial "nudges".

That type of thing can screw right off. It's why I left the space after it proved absolutely impossible to get through to people that these measures were costing the lives of our customers. I bloody tried; and in the end, left for the sake of keeping what was left of my soul intact.

As far as I'm concerned the industry has made their bed. They can now sleep in it.

Re:Top internet sleuths say they won't help find the UnitedH... by onli on Saturday December 07, 2024 @01:26PM (#42351679)
That's not correct. In countries with real health care, all treatments that are listed for an illness are always approved. There just is no denial process that could block e.g. a cancer treatment. A doctor diagnoses it and decided the treatment, the insurance pays and has no say in the matter.