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Re:My second year without a job by throwup238 on Saturday December 07, 2024 @12:07AM (#42347417)
It’s the privilege of renter’s protections. Even with nonpayment the landlord has to go through a Tribunal administratif du logement hearing to evict them and that usually takes a few months unless the tenant is trashing the property on their way out. The process can get extended every time the tenant pays rent so if someone is genuinely trying to pay as soon as they can, eviction takes a while.
Re:My second year without a job by Ferret7446 on Saturday December 07, 2024 @06:56AM (#42349164)
Renter's protections is one of those ideas that sound good on paper. Having to keep a non-paying rentee is disastrous for a landlord who is also trying to pay their mortgage.

Sure, some landlords are large real estate companies, but all you're doing is forcing out small landlords and ensuring that large companies own all of the rental properties.

(Like all regulation, it is at a fundamental level pro-monopolistic, favoring large companies that can handle the overhead of complying with the regulation and punishing small players who cannot.)

Re:My second year without a job by svnt on Saturday December 07, 2024 @07:59AM (#42349494)
If you lose the mortgage on your investment property, you lose your investment property. Risk/reward and all that.

If a renter is evicted, the consequences for their life are much more severe.

Not all regulation is pro-monopolistic. The accumulation of general regulation and restriction is often supported by incumbents but that doesn’t support the sweeping conclusion you’ve reached.

Re:My second year without a job by lukas099 on Saturday December 07, 2024 @09:08AM (#42349929)
The consequences for renters is also severe if not enough housing is supplied because it doesn't make financial sense to do so.
Re:My second year without a job by patrick451 on Saturday December 07, 2024 @01:37PM (#42351766)
If I own rental property, I should not be personally responsible for subsidizing your bad financial decisions.
Re:My second year without a job by weitendorf on Saturday December 07, 2024 @05:57PM (#42353499)
It's not as simple as saying that the downside for landlords is merely loss of their investment and that the downside for renters is homelessness. The risk of non-paying tenants influences market dynamics on both sides and impacts even landlords who never encounter non-paying tenants, and even renters who make all their payments perfectly.

For landlords, they have to be much more selective of which tenants they take, and deny rental applications for those with eg bad credit or incomes that are technically enough to cover rent but leave too little of a buffer. They have to either pay for some kind of insurance (I don't know if this exists but I would assume it does) or diversify across enough properties so that they're financially protected from the risk of getting a non-paying tenant. And of course, yes they may have to deal with the hassle of a drawn out eviction of a non-paying (and often intentionally or unintentionally destructive) tenant who will likely never be able to repay the landlord even if held liable in civil court, which raises their costs in aggregate.

For tenants, besides having those increased costs and income/credit requirements passed through to them, they also have to pay higher security deposits. But probably the biggest problem is the effect on supply. Small scale property owners (especially the kind that ends up becoming an "accidental landlord" because they eg bought a condo and then moved) are highly disincentivized from renting their property out, and when they do, they're highly incentivized to not put it on the open-market and instead opt for their personal network/word of mouth/in-group. For example, lots of large tech companies have internal housing rental groups and many properties may only be advertised in places like that, or within a tight-knit social group where there are real reputational risks to being a non-paying tenant.

Really the problem IMO is that excessively permissive rental protections are a kind of social welfare benefits that are purely born by one part of the private sector. If governments compensated landlords for unpaid rent and intentional destruction from uncooperative tenants (which they have done in some cases for eg covid, but these are often done ad-hoc so landlords can't count on them and adjust practices accordingly) who take 6-12+ months to evict, then most of these problems would disappear.

Re:My second year without a job by carlosjobim on Saturday December 07, 2024 @12:49PM (#42351385)
The landlord deserves zero empathy in these cases. It is his job to select a reliable tenant, that's usually his entire job. Anybody else who fails completely with their responsibilities at their job can expect to be fired and lose their income, or worse. There's an extremely large surplus of honest, tidy and reliable tenants, so it's not a problem for a responsible landlord to avoid going to court, if they just put in the minimum effort at doing their job. And if they can't handle that, they should sell the real estate and not be a landlord.
Re:My second year without a job by recursive on Saturday December 07, 2024 @10:10PM (#42354744)
Wait, who's responsible for maintaining the building?
Re:My second year without a job by btbuildem on Saturday December 07, 2024 @08:25AM (#42349684)
Sounds like he rents a room in a house/apartment, so it's probably one of his roomies that has the lease, not him. If that's the case, protections wont apply here.
Re:My second year without a job by Thorrez on Saturday December 07, 2024 @09:15AM (#42349962)
Why wouldn't the protections apply? They can evict him without going through the proper process? Couldn't he make some sort of claim against them if they do that?
Re:My second year without a job by throwup238 on Saturday December 07, 2024 @02:28PM (#42352173)
If there’s any record of him subleasing (like a pattern of monthly rent payments), most of the protections will apply. The roommate on the lease can’t legally force the subleaser out without the TAL hearing either. If they didn’t ask for permission to sublease, the roommate might have a problem with the landlord depending on the terms of the lease, but the tenant protections apply to anyone who’s renting living space.
Re:My second year without a job by bregma on Sunday December 08, 2024 @07:41AM (#42356787)
That applies to Quebec only. Is OP in Quebec?