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Re:Romanian court annuls result of presidential election fir... by wyager on Friday December 06, 2024 @02:28PM (#42343320)
> this guy reported that he spent nothing on his election campaign, which is impossible as there have been flyers with his face on them, plus ads on social media

Anyone can buy ads and flyers.

If your rejoinder is "It's against the law to buy ads for a candidate if you're not officially part of the campaign" - who cares? Nothing is stopping e.g. me from buying tiktok ads in elections (domestic or foreign).

Re:Romanian court annuls result of presidential election fir... by cbg0 on Friday December 06, 2024 @02:32PM (#42343368)
> Nothing is stopping e.g. me from buying tiktok ads in elections (domestic or foreign).

Yes, and that's a big part of the problem, which is why tiktok is also under fire in this whole situation.

Re:Romanian court annuls result of presidential election fir... by Saline9515 on Friday December 06, 2024 @08:27PM (#42346428)
Tik tok is one of many news sources in Romania. If a local journal decides to support a candidate after that one of its big advertiser asks them to, do we cancel the election?
Re:Romanian court annuls result of presidential election fir... by cbg0 on Saturday December 07, 2024 @03:38AM (#42348253)
TikTok is a social network where anyone can post any video they want, using it as a news source is very dangerous. And no, the election wouldn't be cancelled if a local journalist supported a candidate, though it's not an apples-to-apples comparison with a social network potentially messing with the algo to support a candidate and not respecting electoral law with regards to sponsored ad content.
Re:Romanian court annuls result of presidential election fir... by morkalork on Friday December 06, 2024 @05:20PM (#42345188)
Depending on where you do that, yes, you are breaking local laws. Not every where like America sees money equating to speech.
Re:Romanian court annuls result of presidential election fir... by throw_pm23 on Friday December 06, 2024 @05:22PM (#42345205)
You would be breaking Romanian law if you did that, which you may or may not care about of course.
Re:Romanian court annuls result of presidential election fir... by mopsi on Friday December 06, 2024 @10:10PM (#42346933)
Depends heavily on where you live. I live in a place where donations must be declared and are capped per person. This ensures we know where the money came from, and prevents disproportional influence from rich people.

An obvious hack to bypass this is to assemble "a group of citizens" who start spending money to campaign for a candidate without any direct connection to them, but in such case, there's a special commission run by retired campaign finance people that analyzes the spending and can take action like demand a candidate to pay back over-cap portion of the money spent to advertise them, even if someone else paid for it. In the worst case, this can be escalated to the Supreme Court, who has the authority to scrap and re-run entire elections if the impact of illegal practices is deemed large enough to sway elections.

So far, this system has produced a very transparent campaign financing environment. It was heavily tested in the first few years and withstood attacks remarkably well. A shadow figure of a political party used a retail network they owned to run a huge advertising campaign for a keychain that depicted the mascot of a major political party in their colors. The party was never directly mentioned, but you were blasted everywhere with their colors and the same animal as their mascot. After years of legal battles, it was deemed an illegal donation and the party had to pay for it all back with penalties. It was such a financial blow that the party underperformed for the next few electoral cycles due to constrained finances. No-one dares to try these tricks since then. Both financially and politically, it's cheaper to respect the rules.