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Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by r3r00t3d on Thursday December 05, 2024 @09:14AM (#42328408)
There's not much more a person can do for freedom than to cowardly run once people, who don't agree with you, get to open their mouth without being banned.
Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by endemic on Thursday December 05, 2024 @09:27AM (#42328522)
I deleted my account because it wasn't fun anymore. It turned from sharing cool stuff and being able to connect with random famous people to politicized garbage. There's still cool stuff, but there's also plenty of cool stuff elsewhere (The Internet is a big place).
Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by lm28469 on Thursday December 05, 2024 @09:41AM (#42328646)
One has to be terminally online if they A care about twitter, B think it has anything to do with "freedom"
Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by mrangle on Thursday December 05, 2024 @10:13AM (#42328962)
Why? There's no free speech environment if it lacks spaces that upset you for existing. X's existence in the name of "freedom", even if you disagree with the characterization, in turn protects your free speech. In fact, nothing else really does.
Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by lm28469 on Thursday December 05, 2024 @10:23AM (#42329056)
People should touch some grass instead of debating if insulting groups of people online is what the founding fathers meant by freedom of speech, or if it actually brings anything of value to society. Twitter is still censoring a lot of shit, it just changed side and now that it's yours it's "freedom"

btw freedom of speech doesn't exist anywhere to begin with. Even in the self proclaimed "land of the free" you can't swear on public tv lmao, libel, slander, obscenity, fraud, &c. are all illegal. Meanwhile nobody talks about freedom of press even though the US ranks closer to Hungary than western europe, so much for freedom of speech...

Reminder that twitter is a bubble in the internet, which itself also is a bubble, and that real life exists out there.

Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by mrangle on Thursday December 05, 2024 @10:25AM (#42329075)
That makes no sense, in total.
Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by yyuugg on Thursday December 05, 2024 @10:26AM (#42329086)
Then it's a good opportunity for you to reflect on why it doesn't make sense, go and educate yourself a little. Congrats, you learned you need to learn a little today!
Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by mrangle on Thursday December 05, 2024 @10:38AM (#42329188)
Sorry for your comprehension. Of course, I meant nonsense. I read and understood the post just fine, and that it's claims are nonsense. As in barely comprehensible logic. Stating that the post makes "no sense" means the same thing, but reads as slightly more polite. Thanks for forcing me to break that down.

Are you so frustrated that your tactic for a minor internet spat is to enter the conversation by telling someone what they ought to do?. And then telling me to get "educated" in a response reminds me of reddit. Where are we exactly?

Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by JSchmoe on Thursday December 05, 2024 @02:05PM (#42331382)
You make no sense at all.
Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by mrangle on Saturday December 07, 2024 @09:17AM (#42349974)
How so? Or are you just mirroring my response?
Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by hackable_sand on Thursday December 05, 2024 @10:18AM (#42329009)
It's not cowardly to leave your abusers. It is a very bold act. People decided they were tired of abusive Twitter users, and so they left.
Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by Spivak on Thursday December 05, 2024 @09:32AM (#42328563)
If I wanted replies to my posts to be the most offensive thing the person could think of just for the keks I would just go to 4chan where at least it's more creative.

You can call it running away but it's not out of fear, it's because the quality of discussion dropped to nothing. It didn't used to be that bad when a post broke containment. I've had great discussions on HN with people who disagree with me on very fundamental issues on political topics and I would describe it as polite and informative.

Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by mrangle on Thursday December 05, 2024 @10:23AM (#42329062)
Low quality responses aren't a part of a discussion: they're simply to be ignored. This is part and parcel for the internet, everywhere and for everyone. Unless one chooses not to ignore them, but that's their specific choice to participate.

Where exactly is there "quality of discussion", if we include low quality responses in that rating, in any political space that isn't siloed? It doesn't exist today, and if the space is siloed then it also doesn't exist by definition.

It's okay to want to go where people agree with you more, even if it's because others aren't allowed in. But call it what it is, and note what it isn't.

Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by rsynnott on Thursday December 05, 2024 @10:28AM (#42329098)
> Low quality responses aren't a part of a discussion: they're simply to be ignored. This is part and parcel for the internet, everywhere and for everyone.

Cool. Twitter has made this much more difficult, by (a) embracing a pay-for-attention model, where bluetick replies, which are rarely worth looking at, are artificially promoted and (b) by making mass-blocking far more difficult (through the death of the API). So, people are sensibly going to Bluesky, which provides a better product, with sensible, choosable reply prioritisation, and a first-party blocklist system.

Like a big part of what's going on here is that Twitter is a way worse product than it used to be, while on the other hand better competing products exist in a way that they did not before. It's pretty natural under those circumstances that people go from the bad product to the good product. This is, broadly, how most dead social networks have died, both those which actively made themselves worse (livejournal, Digg, Tumblr), and those which were merely overtaken (Friendster, Myspace, Slashdot).

Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by mrangle on Thursday December 05, 2024 @10:33AM (#42329132)
It's not difficult to ignore people. There are still a lot of (bluecheck) Leftists on X, and people successfully practice ignoring their version of terrible posting just as much as can be done in the other direction.

Looking forward to monitoring the "death of twitter" and the victory of bluesky.

Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by rsynnott on Thursday December 05, 2024 @11:15AM (#42329515)
The way that Twitter currently ranks replies, all the top replies will be from blueticks, and thus generally low-quality nonsense or outright spam (a lot of people seem to be using it for self-promotion, which is perhaps unsurprising given the nature of pay-for-attention). For a post with any significant engagement, this makes ignoring them a lot of work. Many people may find a platform where this isn't a thing attractive.

Like, Twitter is clearly _worse_ with promotion of bluetick replies than it was without it; I don't think that's really controversial. That gives platforms which do not do that an advantage. Do I think Twitter is outright unusable in its current state? No, though it's getting there. But it's certainly way more _unpleasant_ to use than it used to be, and increasingly viable alternatives exist, so it's unclear to me why you'd expect people to bother using Twitter.

Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by mrangle on Saturday December 07, 2024 @09:17AM (#42349969)
Lots of people will variously find any one platform unusable, at any given point. That you and others find X unusable isn't remarkable.

For every person that mirrors your sentiment, there is someone who doesn't. And then the same would hold for your opinion about the relative usability of other platforms.

It's unclear to me why you'd expect "people" (in quotes bc using that word to encompass everyone is strange in this context) to not use X and to be more approving of other platforms.

Last, its unlikely that any platform that primarily exists as a response to another platform will ever have a primary use as anything else. For example, Bluesky's future is likely only to be as a protest platform contra X. This is its identity that it will have difficulty shedding.

Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by yyuugg on Thursday December 05, 2024 @11:07AM (#42329442)
I'd be shocked to see a leftist still on Twitter, tbh. I'm sure there are plenty of Liberals, but I doubt there are many Leftists.
Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by mrangle on Saturday December 07, 2024 @10:06AM (#42350233)
There are masses of Leftists on X. Recently all seemingly intent on placing themselves on all manner of watchlist via psychotically celebrating and supporting the murder of a CEO, utilizing the logic of people with actual brain damage.

I'm sure that Bluesky was having a normal one!

Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by toomuchtodo on Thursday December 05, 2024 @11:12AM (#42329490)
Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by rsynnott on Thursday December 05, 2024 @10:24AM (#42329065)
Eh? No-one is running. People are leaving a thing which has become shit. Like, if a local restaurant starts giving people food poisoning and people stop going there, you don't say people are running away from the restaurant, you say that they're no longer going there because it is bad.

"You cowards! Come back! We've got multiple drug resistant e coli on special this week!"

Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by bediger4000 on Thursday December 05, 2024 @09:46AM (#42328681)
I deleted my account to avoid my valuable "intellectual property" residing in the hands of a single, apparently quite capricious, person.
Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by itbeho on Thursday December 05, 2024 @12:10PM (#42330140)
I hate to break it to you, but your "intellectual property", in terms of social media has always been in the hands of capricious people.
Re:60k people deactivated their X accounts on average each d... by becquerel on Thursday December 05, 2024 @01:03PM (#42330665)
I am not sharing a platform with people who want me dead.