Revolutions definitely change things, not necessarily for the better though(depending on what you expect from the revolution). You can have change without a revolution, like with the Brits and Magna Carta.

If for you democratic elections are a form of revolution than how, in gods name, Magna Carta isn't? Fucking wars were waged for Magna Carta. Just historical illiteracy rearing its ugly head again.

I think you should try to present an argument instead of throwing a tantrum and calling people things.

I did present an argument. My argument is that wars were fought to enact Magna Carta(historical fact) and thus if we consider, as you do, that January 6th was a revolution there is no imaginable reason, at least I can't think of one (and you refuse to share yours), to think that there was no revolution that brought about Magna Carta.

Saying "fucking" isn't throwing a tantrum. Nor is pointing out something as an example of historical illiteracy calling somebody names.

Now that we are on the same page can you present your arguments on how what happened on January 6th is a revolution and how Magna Carta was not brought about by a revolution?

> The French revolution carried on from there etc. It is very much better for most people (not the aristocracy).

That's a common misconception, but the first three (original, 1830, 1848) French revolutions were failures. They paved the way for future improvements, and established important precedents like human rights and equality... but materially for the average person little changes because of the revolutions. The revolution with the biggest impact in France was undoubtedly the Industrial one, which brought social and economic mobility on a large scale.

The Reign of Terror was executing practically any politically active person they could get their hands on (and their families), not just aristocrats. It didn't end until Robespierre was foolish enough to order the execution of one of France's most popular revolutionary politicians (Danton).

When actual peasants revolted, as in the Vendee, the result was what some call a genocide. Against the peasants. By the French Republic.

France continued to see revolutions, "reactions", and Napoleon because the Revolution did not make things better. It was quite some time before that happened for most people.