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Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by sangnoir on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @06:07PM (#42323044)
> Yes you can, just borrow more

Did you purposely leave out my parenthetical to use it as a dunk? Borrowers are not dumb (and the amount of debt is also a useful signal on economic health by the way, and right now it's not terrible; definitely not in recession territory)

> Yes, there is, it is just different for lower income earners

Well, don't leave me hanging - what's the one way to calculate inflation then? Which specific mix of goods and services (and locations) should be used as a national benchmark in THE inflation equation?

Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by kelnos on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @06:48PM (#42323313)
> Borrowers are not dumb

I don't disagree with your overall point, but I do think pre-2008-crash mortgage lending could be a counterexample. Certainly there were a lot of shenanigans going on, but ultimately borrowers made the -- IMO dumb -- choice to stretch themselves far too thin, and buy bigger and more expensive houses than they truly could afford.

Perhaps everyone today has learned from history, though. (But I wouldn't bet on it.)

Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by sangnoir on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @07:06PM (#42323425)
Touche. I meant to say "lenders" - but they too were pretty dumb with sub-prime mortgages in 2008
Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by lazide on Thursday December 05, 2024 @01:28AM (#42325532)
Any given borrower, on their own, is unlikely to be dumb.

The market can be irrational far longer than they can be solvent, however, and not being ‘dumb’ can make that worse.

Pre’08, you had to be dumb as a borrower in 90% of markets, or you’d be flat out unable to buy anything. As to if continuing to buy in those conditions was dumb or not, is mostly something that can only be judged retroactively.