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Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by voidfunc on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @02:02PM (#42320757)
Do people honestly think Americans don't have rich social lives? Just because we socialize differently doesn't mean it isn't rich. Most Americans seem to prefer church groups, and small friend and family gatherings at their homes rather than going out and mingling in urban entertainment districts and bars.
Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by lolinder on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @02:08PM (#42320840)
Europeans get most of their perspective on US social living conditions from the terminally online, who are disproportionately likely to have no social life. The average American living in, say, the Midwest doesn't show up in the anecdotes that stereotypes are built around.
Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by tomtheelder on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @02:29PM (#42321077)
I'm an American and it definitely seems like we are in a significant and worsening loneliness crisis. I have no idea to what degree any of it is unique to Americans. Social connectedness, socialization rates, and companionship have all been declining for quite a while now. Lot's of potential causes and theories about it. [1] is a decent overview.

Like personally I'm doing great, and so are a lot of people I know, and I'm sure you as well. But I think a lot of Americans are struggling badly with their social lives.

[1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9811250/

Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by ravetcofx on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @03:00PM (#42321427)
#1 Reason is likely the urban fabric of places being non-walkable & car dependent. It's a physical structure that doesn't lead itself to spontaneity and new connections.
Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by lolinder on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @03:27PM (#42321687)
That doesn't make any sense as an explanation for rising rates of loneliness. The US isn't more car dependent today than it was 10 years ago.
Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by jmoak on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @08:45PM (#42323980)
I recommend reading Robert Putnam's Bowling Alone (2000). American civic and social engagement has been declining in almost every measurable way for 50 years now. There is no way to deny this.

The largest contributor according the book's surveys and studies (and I love saying this) is television outcompeting in-person fun. Car dependency is a factor, but IIRC was factor #2 or #3. While this ranking was true at the time of publication, I would wager that time spent on "screens" is likely factor #1, #2, and #3 now.

Please read the version with the 20 year update: https://www.amazon.com/Bowling-Alone-Collapse-American-Commu...

I would wager that many people are fleeing their hometowns to socialize in cities not because they're walkable, but because the density of people increases, allowing you to have better odds meeting real humans who haven't been lost to the allure of the indoors.

Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by s1artibartfast on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @09:27PM (#42324201)
The average American watches 4 hours of television a day, and I don't think that includes cell phone web scrolling.

I don't think you can have a realistic conversation about American physical or mental health without centering this fact

Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by kmoser on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @02:40PM (#42321213)
I'm not sure that's a correct characterization of Americans' social lives. Many, many Americans, especially young ones, go bar hopping.
Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by amrocha on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @02:42PM (#42321233)
Nobody under 50 goes to church willingly that wasn’t brainwashed.
Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by lolinder on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @03:29PM (#42321713)
That's a very convenient way to frame it! You can't possibly be wrong because every counterexample is obviously either unwilling or brainwashed.
Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by amrocha on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @09:48PM (#42324303)
It’s just an acknowledgement of the spread of cults in the US. Just look at Utah.