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Re:How to Grow Professional Relationships by lukan on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @01:31PM (#42320433)
"The main point in making is that you need to continue in performing these relationship maintaining activities _before_ you need said persons help."

Well, but I am quite good in determining if another person is just trying to be (fake) friendly, so they can get my help later and I am not interested in that and smalltalk won't create that bond for me. I am interested in genuine connections.

So if someone asks this question "Hey man, you get into any new hobbies recently" and is actually interested in my response - then this is simply not smalltalk anymore by my definition. And I gladly answer. And maybe form a bond. And of course help each other later.

But if I feel, it is just a mechanical and calculated approach to bond with me, well, no thank you. But I also help people without doing smalltalk if I can.

Re:How to Grow Professional Relationships by Agentus on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @02:43PM (#42321245)
small talk isnt pointless if done with an aim. this video help explains that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw5CPtEyedU. seduction as applied to conversation.

also rather mundane conversation can be fun if done in the right manner. this video talks more on the right manner: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRG-YubP1rw

Re:How to Grow Professional Relationships by lovich on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @02:35PM (#42321146)
> Well, but I am quite good in determining if another person is just trying to be (fake) friendly, so they can get my help later and I am not interested in that and smalltalk won't create that bond for me. I am interested in genuine connections.

Can I presume that this is the burner account of some particular billionaire if you are that good at recognizing the social situations?

Re:How to Grow Professional Relationships by lelanthran on Thursday December 05, 2024 @01:25AM (#42325520)
> Can I presume that this is the burner account of some particular billionaire if you are that good at recognizing the social situations?

I'm pretty certain GP isn't as good as he thinks he is. Literally no one can tell the difference between me making smalltalk because I think I may need you later and me making smalltalk because I am genuinely interested in you.

The reason I say this is because even I cannot tell tell the difference, because I tend to find something interesting in everyone. I've made smalltalk with literal ditch-diggers, and two weeks later with a billionaire, and the conversations were both pretty much the same.

Re:How to Grow Professional Relationships by lukan on Thursday December 05, 2024 @05:20AM (#42326732)
"The reason I say this is because even I cannot tell tell the difference"

Then you are acting natural. I mean cold calculated attempts to bond to benefit. And nice empty small talk as an art to get there. This is the small talk I mean and don't like. Talking about small things in a fun way I enjoy

Re:How to Grow Professional Relationships by tejaskumar_ on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @02:09PM (#42320851)
I fully agree with this.