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Re:A pro-science, pro-progress, techno-optimistic health tex... by niceice on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @11:38AM (#42319174)
A lot of is the abuse of the label anti-vaxxer. It's being misapplied to people who aren't against vaccine technology.

RFK, who is vaccinated along with his children: "I’ve been fighting 40 years to get mercury out of fish. Nobody calls me anti-fish."

Re:A pro-science, pro-progress, techno-optimistic health tex... by supplied_demand on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @11:51AM (#42319337)
Can you explain what you mean by "people who aren't against vaccine technology?" I'm not sure I follow given that RFK has explicitly said he is against vaccines and that no vaccines are safe and effective. [0]

===In July, Kennedy said in a podcast interview that “There’s no vaccine that is safe and effective” and told FOX News that he still believes in the long-ago debunked idea that vaccines can cause autism. In a 2021 podcast he urged people to “resist” CDC guidelines on when kids should get vaccines.===

===“I see somebody on a hiking trail carrying a little baby and I say to him, better not get them vaccinated,” Kennedy said.===

===That same year, in a video promoting an anti-vaccine sticker campaign by his nonprofit, Kennedy appeared onscreen next to one sticker that declared “IF YOU’RE NOT AN ANTI-VAXXER YOU AREN’T PAYING ATTENTION.”===

[0] https://apnews.com/article/rfk-kennedy-election-2024-preside...

Re:A pro-science, pro-progress, techno-optimistic health tex... by niceice on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @12:20PM (#42319621)
He should be more careful with his words, but they're resorting to cherry picked quotes and guilt by association to mislead:

"appeared onscreen next to"

It's unserious. To get his actual opinion, which is nuanced, you have to go long form.

Re:A pro-science, pro-progress, techno-optimistic health tex... by supplied_demand on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @12:50PM (#42319966)
==guilt by association to mislead: "appeared onscreen next to"==

It was something produced by his own non-profit. Do you not think it is fair to associate him with the non-profit he founded and ran? He has had no trouble associating himself with the organization. I feel like we can make the same association without misleading anyone.

This is still just a deflection from the question of what "people who aren't against vaccine technology" even means. Can you please define it? I am having trouble seeing the difference between being anti-vaccine and being anti-vaccine technology.

NOTE: The comment I originally responded to has since been edited.

Re:A pro-science, pro-progress, techno-optimistic health tex... by insane_dreamer on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @08:56PM (#42324036)
Actually he explicitly said that he was not against vaccines.

So I guess you can take your pick.

Re:A pro-science, pro-progress, techno-optimistic health tex... by mmastrac on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @11:46AM (#42319283)
I don't think quoting RFK is a good example of showcasing a rational view of vaccines.