Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger
by KerrAvon on Monday December 02, 2024 @02:41PM
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Eh, firewalls can be made strong enough, at least for some things. A software parallel is: you are Apple / Facebook, do you use Azure and/or AWS? I wouldn't, if it were me, but they do.
Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger
by steveBK123 on Monday December 02, 2024 @03:35PM
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Maybe but I think AWS arguably is a different scale of automation. There’s no Amazon human in the loop looking at your source. Sure a human SRE could peak into your system but that’s something of an exception.
I can’t imagine fabs have that level of automation. It’s not like sending a file to your printer. It’s a multi month or year project in some cases to get your design produced. There’s many humans involved surely.
Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger
by mnau on Monday December 02, 2024 @05:47PM
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Azure/AWS is cloud/B2B, AAPL/FB are B2C consumer goods/services. Different customers, different industries. There is some overlap, but moat is in other places.
AMD/NVIDIA are in same business as Intel and have same pool of customers.
At least in theory, a fully independent, split/spun out standalone fab removes this concern.
That said - what does Intel have to offer the top players here? Their fabs are being state of the art. And what's the standalone value of post-spin fabless Intel if their chip designs are as behind as their fabs?
This certainly presents a conundrum for US policy since we need fabs domestically for national security reasons, but the domestically owned ones are behind.