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Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by bell-cot on Monday December 02, 2024 @09:26AM (#42296534)
> ...the best case scenario for Intel is a merger with AMD...

Why would AMD want a merger? They aren't a charity, and certainly don't need the distraction.

Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by etempleton on Monday December 02, 2024 @09:42AM (#42296672)
Well, for at least a time they would have the entire x86 market. That is not nothing. Also AMD may want to get back into the fab business. Without competition in x86 why not use Intel's fabs?
Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by esskay on Monday December 02, 2024 @10:00AM (#42296824)
They dont need to merge with intel to get the entire x86 market, they'll be getting that anyway if Intel folds.

Even if Intel gets bought out, it'll be in pieces. Nobody wants to enter the x86 market, but there may be smaller segmenrs of the business that can help an ARM based business, or someone looking to get into GPU's.

Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by toast0 on Monday December 02, 2024 @11:48AM (#42297933)
> Nobody wants to enter the x86 market

If the ISA patent licenses opened up, that might not be the case. When the topic comes up, it's more about Intel shutting down license transfers, so naturally companies have avoided x86.

Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by Wytwwww on Monday December 02, 2024 @10:22AM (#42297066)
> they'll be getting that anyway if Intel folds.

Why would Intel "fold"? Their revenue is still 2x higher than AMDs... I mean obviously they are not doing great but its silly to say something like that at this point.

Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by KeplerBoy on Monday December 02, 2024 @09:58AM (#42296809)
And everyone would rush to migrate away from x86.

Having a sole supplier for CPUs is a bad strategy.

Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by KETHERCORTEX on Monday December 02, 2024 @10:19AM (#42297035)
Yet everyone is okay with a de-facto single supplier of CUDA capable AI GPUs.
Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by hedora on Monday December 02, 2024 @10:55AM (#42297376)
This is only true if “everyone” excludes all of the hyperscalers and the client device manufacturers.
Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by Wytwwww on Monday December 02, 2024 @10:25AM (#42297088)
Perhaps not. But (unlike in this hypothetical situation) nobody besides AMD and Intel can do much about that...
Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by bell-cot on Monday December 02, 2024 @10:45AM (#42297275)
Outside of Nvidia, nobody is okay with that.
Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by tadfisher on Monday December 02, 2024 @12:43PM (#42298431)
They would technically have no market, because the Intel-AMD X86 license is non-transferable and expires if one party goes out of business.
Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by bell-cot on Monday December 02, 2024 @03:14PM (#42299943)
IANAL, however:

- A token legal remnant of Intel, with 0 employees or properties, might suffice to keep that license ticking.

- If the stakes appeared to be "or America will lose it's ability to make computers", then the government might find a judge willing to sign off on just about any sort of counterfactual, "because national security".