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Re:Yotta Bank and the Problem with Fintech (Patrick Boyle) [... by sdwr on Sunday December 01, 2024 @11:56AM (#42289328)
Saving is disciplined, forward-thinking, and virtuous, in a sober, Puritanical way.

Gambling is degenerate, chaotic and immoral.

Yotta is a savings account for gamblers. The moral argument is "Gambling is bad, these people tried to bet their cake and eat it too, on some level they got what was coming to them".

Re:Yotta Bank and the Problem with Fintech (Patrick Boyle) [... by foxglacier on Sunday December 01, 2024 @12:09PM (#42289391)
It's a wrong argument. "what was coming to them" was not winning but still keeping their money. Gambling is different because you risk losing what you put in.
Re:Yotta Bank and the Problem with Fintech (Patrick Boyle) [... by multjoy on Sunday December 01, 2024 @12:46PM (#42289609)
>Gambling is degenerate, chaotic and immoral.

The Mayflower called, they've lost a puritan again.

Re:Yotta Bank and the Problem with Fintech (Patrick Boyle) [... by matwood on Sunday December 01, 2024 @01:09PM (#42289734)
Hahaha. They irony in the gamble the puritans took to come to the US to start.
Re:Yotta Bank and the Problem with Fintech (Patrick Boyle) [... by salawat on Sunday December 01, 2024 @03:09PM (#42290399)
...First, when there is somewhere to go to get away from religious persecution, that is a more or less a rational gamble.

Second, are you really condescendingly equating compulsive gambling with escaping societal scale persecution or strife resulting from incompatibilities of religious belief with the State religion?

That's a bit of a stretch.

Re:Yotta Bank and the Problem with Fintech (Patrick Boyle) [... by tzs on Sunday December 01, 2024 @09:29PM (#42292544)
The general idea of Yotta at the time appears to be sound [1]. Research has shown that prize-linked savings accounts tend to result in people getting and using savings accounts who otherwise would not have done so.

Just make sure to get it from an actual bank or credit union where your account will be directly FDIC or whatever the equivalent for credit unions is insured, instead of going through some fintech company where you account is with the fintech company where they store your money (commingled with other people's money) in a (hopefully insured!) bank but as far as the bank is concerned its all the fintech's money and you have no relationship with the bank.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prize-linked_savings_account

Re:Yotta Bank and the Problem with Fintech (Patrick Boyle) [... by cloudsec9 on Monday December 02, 2024 @12:49AM (#42293474)
If it was fully disclosed that this was "gambling", then I might agree.

But it seems that it was more positioned as "a safe investment with okay returns and a lottery chance at winning above average returns". Gamblers don't need to know about FDIC insurance and the like.

There was shady goings on that wasn't clear to depositors -- what isn't clear is WHERE that shadiness was happening, but that doesn't mean they "got what was coming to them".