Re:The Most Hated Way of Firing Someone, the PIP, Is More Po...
by hn3er1q on Saturday November 30, 2024 @01:54PM
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It's interesting to ponder if this is a good thing or a bad thing. The knee jerk reaction is this is all very unhealthy but I wonder if it is really. Imagine we were talking about back-up quarterbacks in the NFL. That individual is probably one heck of a quarterback and athlete, and they did excellent in lesser teams which is what got them into the NFL in the first place. But, they are a back-up quarter back in the NFL, not a starter. If they continue to remain a back-up quarterback, should they be PIP'ed or not?
Re:The Most Hated Way of Firing Someone, the PIP, Is More Po...
by rexer on Saturday November 30, 2024 @07:05PM
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I think the trouble is that most teams don’t need this level of performance. They don’t need the top .0001%. Those teams are the edge cases not even worth talking about.
And more importantly, not the ones you want to model your team after.
Re:The Most Hated Way of Firing Someone, the PIP, Is More Po...
by jmpman on Sunday December 01, 2024 @09:41AM
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In an NBA reference, the fallen elite athletes from US teams would venture to Europe or Asia and play there. They’re still getting paid, and the European teams are better because of it.
There are 1000’s of accounts where these solutions architects would be better than the existing architects. Instead of sending them down into the minor leagues, we are firing them. Seems short sighted, and a waste of talent.
Re:The Most Hated Way of Firing Someone, the PIP, Is More Po...
by jjeaff on Sunday December 01, 2024 @05:56PM
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You only ever have one quarterback playing for a team at once. no matter how successful the team becomes. presumably with a company, you are constantly growing and should need to grow your talent pool constantly. And how do I know that next year's new recruits are going to be as good as this year's pip'ed employees?
Re:The Most Hated Way of Firing Someone, the PIP, Is More Po...
by BobbyTables2 on Sunday December 01, 2024 @08:46PM
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I used to think promotions always included pay raises…
Yet twice I received none. But was put on harder expectations for bonuses.
Hope to be never promoted again!
In my own role, I’ve realized that getting promoted is more likely to put me in competition with a more elite set of engineers, so I continue to decline the promotion offer. I happily perform at top of band in my current role, and avoid the PIP stress. I’m likely sacrificing $100k/year for this peace of mind, but also expect to work another 7 years in this role at this level, as opposed to maybe 3 years at the higher level before getting PIPed.