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Re:Russia's Economy Is Doomed by bediger4000 on Friday November 29, 2024 @10:30PM (#42279150)
> under the Putin regime a lack of property rights and the rule of law drive its innovators and entrepreneurs abroad

I imagine "property rights" means "property rights for all, not just for oligarchs" in the above. Similarly "rule of law".

Re:Russia's Economy Is Doomed by ChumpGPT on Friday November 29, 2024 @10:51PM (#42279238)
Not even Oligarchs. Look at what is happening with Wild Berries. Russia is falling apart and dying and there is nothing anyone can do about it. It was never based on any kind of law and a mafia state. I predict it will be a repeat of 1998 where everyone will lose everything, savings, pensions, investments, etc. Afghanistan ushered in the fall of the USSR, Chechnya ushered in bankruptcy in 98 and the War they started in Ukraine will destroy the country entirely.

What a great time to be alive to watch an Empire of Evil and Murder destroyed.

Re:Russia's Economy Is Doomed by toomuchtodo on Friday November 29, 2024 @10:54PM (#42279256)
> What a great time to be alive to watch an Empire of Evil and Murder destroyed.

"USSR Failure 2: Electric Boogaloo"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Unio...

Re:Russia's Economy Is Doomed by lnn1994 on Saturday November 30, 2024 @12:06AM (#42279623)
Complete nonsense!!! Wildberries is far from being the Russian economy! The company exists, and what goes on inside the company is their internal business. Your prediction is of no interest to anyone! Who are you??? An oracle??? So make your predictions on the appropriate platforms! And read less trash resources! They lie!!!
Re:Russia's Economy Is Doomed by ChumpGPT on Saturday November 30, 2024 @12:41AM (#42279813)
Kadyrov vs Bekhan Barakhoyev, Suleiman Kerimov and Rizvan Kurbanov says otherwise.

Bakalchuk has agreed to give him a pretty good stake in the company if he can get his half back.

No law, just Mafia....In what country but Russia could this happen....Warlords and Oligarchs fighting over anything they can steal....

Russia is done, you know it. It will end up on the dung heaps of Asia where it was born....

Re:Russia's Economy Is Doomed by xenospn on Saturday November 30, 2024 @04:15AM (#42280529)
And a new generation of oligarchs will rise. Rinse and repeat.
Re:Russia's Economy Is Doomed by ttyprintk on Saturday November 30, 2024 @03:07AM (#42280297)
Counterpoint: the only way to keep the standard of living increasing for the poorest Russians is war spending.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-ruble-economy-putin-1.7...

… and that will be the indicator to watch. Otherwise, economic signals from the Russian people make central bank measures look Soviet, so there’s necessarily the question of collapse. But the average Russian appears willing to endure another 1998—-projecting that Putin will outlive the economy. The key will be: can Putin use his advantage with the people who control Trump to keep wild protectionist policies from depressing Asian demand for Russian oil?

Re:Russia's Economy Is Doomed by sedan_baklazhan on Saturday November 30, 2024 @10:21AM (#42282068)
This goes to my collection of pathetic "Russia is done with" stories.
Re:Russia's Economy Is Doomed by sceptical on Saturday November 30, 2024 @10:31AM (#42282103)
Similar to your collection of USSR stories, I bet.
Re:Russia's Economy Is Doomed by sedan_baklazhan on Saturday November 30, 2024 @10:36AM (#42282124)
This is false logic. (a is true) does not ever lead to (b is true).
Re:Russia's Economy Is Doomed by tim333 on Saturday November 30, 2024 @12:44PM (#42282890)
I was going to say the combination of huge oil and gas resources combined with low debt makes it hard for it to be doomed. I mean the war is expensive and they may have to cut back but that doesn't really count as doomed.
Re:Russia's Economy Is Doomed by xenospn on Sunday December 01, 2024 @05:40AM (#42287602)
I think people are underestimating what "acceptable standard of living" means for most Russians. They've spent hundreds of years living in the worst possible conditions and (almost) never revolted. Sadly, Russians are almost genetically preconditioned to just accept it, shrug, and carry on.
Re:Russia's Economy Is Doomed by protomolecule on Sunday December 01, 2024 @09:04AM (#42288507)
Thanks, more people need to see nazi russophobes like you.
Re:Russia's Economy Is Doomed by xenospn on Sunday December 01, 2024 @09:45AM (#42288681)
1. Godwin’s law says you lose

2. I’ve seen more of Russia and the former Soviet Union than you.

Re:Russia's Economy Is Doomed by endofreach on Sunday December 01, 2024 @05:26PM (#42291183)
I was wondering what about that comment offended you that much to assume OP is "nazi russophobe".

The only thing i could think of that might be much more offensive than i interpret it, would be the "genetically preconditioned". To me, the "almost" made it seem like a figure of speech, an obvious exaggeration. Not that OP actually thinks that there is something up with the genom. But considering the bad things people say about russian people, and how it seems to have become totally acceptable for many to discriminate based on nationality, i can see how either i, as a non-russian person, might not be sensitive enough for the wording here, or, how russians are extra sensitive.

In case my comment seems provocative, it is not meant like that at all. I want to learn about your honest perspective.

Re:Russia's Economy Is Doomed by protomolecule on Monday December 02, 2024 @04:48AM (#42294630)
Hi, your comment is not provocative.

My interpretation of 'almost' is quite different from yours. To me it sounds like "Russians are genetically preconditioned, but I didn't say that". Of course he did. Try replacing Russians with Afro-Americans or Jews and see if it sounds okay to you.

As for how a Russian sees it, remember that 85 years ago Germans decided that we are racially inferior and they need our living space[0][1]. 26 million of Soviet citizens died as the result[2]. Try comparing that number with the number of deaths in any present day war. Personally, my grandmother survived genocidal siege of Leningrad[3], where a million of civilians starved to death or died during evacuation, and another relative survived in a Nazi death camp.[4]

That should explain the 'nazi' part of my comment.

As for 'russophobe', that comes from the rest of his comment. It is factually incorrect and disparaging to Russians. I can unpack that if it's needed.

Here is a fun bit: note the use of the same word 'almost' to downplay Russian revolutions of 1905 and 1917 along with rebellions in previous centuries.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum#Racial_ideology

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_the...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp

Re:Russia's Economy Is Doomed by dang on Monday December 02, 2024 @03:15PM (#42299953)
Please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes things worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Russia's Economy Is Doomed by dang on Monday December 02, 2024 @03:15PM (#42299950)
Nationalistic attacks are not allowed here, regardless of country. Please don't post like this to HN.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html