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Re:BYD launches sodium-ion grid-scale BESS product by wyager on Friday November 29, 2024 @12:39AM (#42271145)
I agree with the denotative message of your post (that we should let the energy market do its optimization unimpeded), but I'm guessing we disagree connotatively; most "green" solutions (especially wind, to a lesser degree solar) are only viable at all because of extreme distortions in the energy market induced by subsidies. Tariffs would of course also be distortionary, but it would be difficult for them to compete with the gross distortions that already exist! In the (loosely remembered) words of a friend who designs wind turbine blades and control systems: "we would build these things to be a lot more reliable if we weren't just trying to maximize subsidy revenue". I'm more immediately worried about these demand-side distortions than the hypothetical supply-side ones.
Re:BYD launches sodium-ion grid-scale BESS product by tda on Friday November 29, 2024 @12:53AM (#42271214)
At least in Europe, offshore wind farms (which are more expensive than on shore) don't need any subsidies to be profitable. The turning point was around 2018
Re:BYD launches sodium-ion grid-scale BESS product by mytailorisrich on Friday November 29, 2024 @02:35AM (#42271738)
Is that true?

Recently (a year-18 months ago?) there were big headlines in the UK when no-one bid for a batch of offshore farms because the guaranteed electricity price offered by the government was too low for investors.

Re:BYD launches sodium-ion grid-scale BESS product by pjc50 on Friday November 29, 2024 @04:33AM (#42272546)
The strike price is also a cap. It's not precisely a market; nuclear also gets a (much higher) strike price agreement.
Re:BYD launches sodium-ion grid-scale BESS product by jpgvm on Friday November 29, 2024 @12:54AM (#42271217)
Oil subsidies dwarf solar/wind/hydro/nuclear combined that is without factoring in socialized costs of pollution and accidents.
Re:BYD launches sodium-ion grid-scale BESS product by cscurmudgeon on Friday November 29, 2024 @12:56AM (#42271228)
That means we should subsidize local solar/wind/hydro/nuclear more and not allow foreign subsidized companies to decimate local companies.
Re:BYD launches sodium-ion grid-scale BESS product by cma on Friday November 29, 2024 @12:58AM (#42271236)
Nuclear has many plausible trillion dollar accident scenarios. They are capped to a few billion in liability from a major subsidy left over from the cold war era.