Re:Nobody knows why ultra-processed foods are bad for you
by bee_rider on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @11:52AM
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What’s special about Japan in this context?
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Re:Nobody knows why ultra-processed foods are bad for you
by bilekas on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @11:55AM
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They do have a particularly high life expectancy.
Re:Nobody knows why ultra-processed foods are bad for you
by qup on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @12:00PM
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And don't have the obesity problem we have
Re:Nobody knows why ultra-processed foods are bad for you
by bee_rider on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @01:48PM
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This is a lagging indicator though, right? I wonder how the diets of Japanese people ~50 years ago compare to the Americans of today.
Re:Nobody knows why ultra-processed foods are bad for you
by makeitdouble on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @11:58AM
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Japan isn't special IMHO, but overweight rate is on the low side.
Now, trying to understand why is can of worm (social pressure and bullying probably plays a role for instance, which have other adverse effects possibly worse than just being overweight)
Re:Nobody knows why ultra-processed foods are bad for you
by formerlurker on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @12:48PM
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I went to Japan recently and one of the most striking things to me was how easy it was to walk to places. Their infrastructure astounded me because it was set up with people in mind and not car companies.
Re:Nobody knows why ultra-processed foods are bad for you
by 0xcde4c3db on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @02:26PM
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My understanding (albeit only gathered from blogs/YouTube videos/Google Maps) is that the biggest difference is parking. On-street parking is mostly not allowed, free parking at businesses is mostly limited to car-centric ones like mechanics and dealerships, and you can't register a car without proving that you have a place to park it. Tens of millions of Japanese people living in less-dense areas have no problem with that, but in Tokyo it's prohibitively expensive for the average person due to land cost. This means that even in suburban areas, roads are narrower and everything is closer together.
Re:Nobody knows why ultra-processed foods are bad for you
by jimbokun on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @05:10PM
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When I worked in Japan for a year and lived in the company subsidized dormitory, a coworker half-joked that it cost more to house his car in a payed parking spot than it did to house himself in the dorm.
Re:Nobody knows why ultra-processed foods are bad for you
by vel0city on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @10:00PM
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When my grandfather passed away the deed for his Manhattan parking spot was far more valueable than the five bedroom home I grew up in.
Re:Nobody knows why ultra-processed foods are bad for you
by robocat on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @03:49PM
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I think this can be seen in cities with walking-to-work culture (often metro/underground).
Although I've wondered if cause is enforced exercise or just selection (people that move to a large city to work have a demographic).
Re:Nobody knows why ultra-processed foods are bad for you
by bee_rider on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @01:49PM
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I wouldn’t be surprised if keeping moving contributed more to not dying than diet specifics.
Re:Nobody knows why ultra-processed foods are bad for you
by zeroCalories on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @11:57AM
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Good health outcomes compared to other first world countries?