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Re:Don't Look Down on Print Debugging by baq on Saturday November 23, 2024 @09:57AM (#42221231)
You’re absolutely right - but it’s worth mentioning that print debugging is the only sanity-preserving way to debug distributed systems (spans are basically super fancy prints) or systems which need to run at full speed (optimized builds) to reproduce bugs… sometimes the easy way is the only way.
Re:Don't Look Down on Print Debugging by orwin on Saturday November 23, 2024 @10:44AM (#42221472)
Isn't it better to use a logger than print statements for distributed systems? Maybe I'm putting too much logging everywhere, but distributed systems are typically a use case where a bug can appear, be 'fixed' (or 'fix itselfn) , then re-appear two month later (the eisenbug). In this case, DEBUG=true and relaunching the app with a logger is often better imho (and if your logger is good, it prints on stdout/stderr when your app is launched locally).
Re:Don't Look Down on Print Debugging by baq on Saturday November 23, 2024 @12:52PM (#42222290)
Absolutely - if you want to make this distinction. I put logger.debug() and print() in the same bucket; if you're fancy, you've configured your print to emit logs or configured your linter to forbid print calls.