'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previously thought

Re:'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previou... by MezzoDelCammin on Saturday November 23, 2024 @04:09AM (#42219938)

I think the idea behind energy shaming is that energy price rarely includes its externalities (probably resources depletion and pollution). "If You buy it, You do what You want with it" is of course legally correct. But I think the argument they're trying to make subconsciously in is that there's someone else who will have to pay part of the price for it.

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Re:'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previou... by modeless on Saturday November 23, 2024 @04:12AM (#42219948)

Water use is not an externality. All water used is paid for.

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Re:'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previou... by atoav on Saturday November 23, 2024 @04:20AM (#42219988)

[citation needed] Nuclear Power plants who use river water in their cooling cycle and pump the (now heated) water back to the river don't pay for that.

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Re:'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previou... by modeless on Saturday November 23, 2024 @04:49AM (#42220114)

That's not the kind of water use the article is complaining about.

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Re:'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previou... by grues-dinner on Saturday November 23, 2024 @06:27AM (#42220379)

The cooling system illustrated in the article is very very similar to a typical nuclear power station cooling system. From the heat exchanger onwards, the secondary loop is functionally identical, the main difference is the primary loop working fluid (and that loop operates at a far lower temperature and pressure).

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Re:'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previou... by atoav on Saturday November 23, 2024 @05:22AM (#42220212)

All water use includes that one right?

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Re:'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previou... by groestl on Saturday November 23, 2024 @04:13AM (#42219954)

The argument is I think that all unnecessary energy expense should be shamed equally, or not at all.

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Re:'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previou... by albertojacini on Saturday November 23, 2024 @04:14AM (#42219958)

Can be true, but it applies to Disneyland as well.

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Re:'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previou... by sigmoid10 on Saturday November 23, 2024 @04:28AM (#42220024)

But if you're a conservative cynic about Disneyland, people will just label you as some old sad geezer with outdated opinions yelling at kids playing in the garden. You have to hate on something new and trendy to keep up your consumer focus group engagement metrics these days.

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Re:'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previou... by thrw42A8N on Saturday November 23, 2024 @06:52AM (#42220454)

Which makes you seem insincere.

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Re:'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previou... by stogot on Saturday November 23, 2024 @08:34AM (#42220775)

Energy shaming isn’t a conservative schtik. The OP is right, why are we picking and choosing? Shame them all. Disney, Six Flags, Universal Studios, Sea World, Bush Gardens

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Re:'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previou... by sigmoid10 on Saturday November 23, 2024 @04:02PM (#42223857)

Then where are all the articles bashing them? Only targeting the trendy bait makes them seem insincere, just like the other commenter said.

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Re:'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previou... by stogot on Sunday November 24, 2024 @10:21AM (#42228328)

I would presume, because it is the largest, and most famous of them all… Not for any nefarious reason

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Re:'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previou... by sigmoid10 on Monday November 25, 2024 @11:11AM (#42237401)

It is by far neither the the most famous nor the largest once you account for the whole population and not some bubble.

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