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Re:Yi Peng 3 crossed both cables C-Lion 1 and BSC at times m... by aguaviva on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @12:39PM (#42196340)
Here is a BBC article from 2 DAYS AGO that basically says what I'm saying

Which says nothing at all about the conflict being "a proxy war".

Re:Yi Peng 3 crossed both cables C-Lion 1 and BSC at times m... by jacknews on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @01:05PM (#42196586)
nitpick.

It exactly states that Biden might be stirring things up in anticipation of Trump sueing for a freeze.

Re:Yi Peng 3 crossed both cables C-Lion 1 and BSC at times m... by aguaviva on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @01:17PM (#42196681)
Which still says nothing about the conflict being fundamentally a proxy war.
Re:Yi Peng 3 crossed both cables C-Lion 1 and BSC at times m... by jacknews on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @09:33PM (#42200499)
I mean the fact that the US is dictating what can and cannot happen in the war makes is a proxy war almost by definitiion.
Re:Yi Peng 3 crossed both cables C-Lion 1 and BSC at times m... by aguaviva on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @10:49PM (#42200909)
But the article itself addresses only the context of ATACMS. Not whether the US is "dictating what can and cannot happen in the war" generally.

Either way -- according the definition in Wikipedia, it is a proxy because one side is strongly supported by an external power. Sounds reasonable, and I can go with it (on at least a technical basis).

Where people go wrong (not saying you here) is when they accept the term "proxy war" and assume (or insinuate) that it means or supports the idea that Ukraine is simply a puppet state, not really fighting out of its own motivations.