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Re:DOJ will push Google to sell off Chrome by dismalaf on Monday November 18, 2024 @10:22PM (#42179827)
Nothing more evil than pushing standards and even sharing the source code. How dare they...
Re:DOJ will push Google to sell off Chrome by kaba0 on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @04:44AM (#42181634)
So why are those standards impossible to keep up with and we already see plenty of sites break under Firefox? Which by the way is the only independent browser remaining in game, even goddamn Microsoft leaving the domain behind?
Re:DOJ will push Google to sell off Chrome by pitkali on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @04:59AM (#42181730)
Because development costs money. Your "impossible to keep up" here is easily explained by Google simply investing more money in development and thus being able to "innovate" faster. The only way to compete is to invest more, but where do you get that money from?

The easy fix is to make them slow down development, but I fail to see how that's a good thing.

Re:DOJ will push Google to sell off Chrome by kaba0 on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @05:25AM (#42181900)
Sure. Continuing my analogy to the British empire's rule over the seas has also surely resulted in technological improvements, but that is not the only way to achieve that.

For a more practical example, Linux is also developed mostly by paid employees, but they are from many different companies and thus improvements can't be weaponized as easily.

Re:DOJ will push Google to sell off Chrome by dismalaf on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @11:56AM (#42185560)
Maybe if Mozilla spent more money on development and less money trying to be an NGO they could keep up... Mozilla gets more than enough revenue (from Google ironically), they just spend it poorly.

Or they could do what Brave, Vivaldi and others do and simply use Chromium as a base.

Re:DOJ will push Google to sell off Chrome by kaba0 on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @01:17AM (#42191243)
> Or they could do what Brave, Vivaldi and others do and simply use Chromium as a base.

Don't you even see the problem?!

Even Microsoft dropped out from developing a web browser, it literally has a larger scope than a whole OS.

But sure, enjoy your Chrome OS proprietary "open" web.

Re:DOJ will push Google to sell off Chrome by dismalaf on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @01:35PM (#42196833)
Again, how can it be a proprietary web if everything is open source and available to every other vendor?

Not sure if you remember all the "native" applets that actually were proprietary before Chrome came on the scene and made JS fast enough to kill them... ActiveX, Flash, Java... Those were the dark ages, because of Google the web is more open and better than ever...

Re:DOJ will push Google to sell off Chrome by kaba0 on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @02:38PM (#42197354)
More like there were actually multiple vendors that would have to agree on a common thing, but they died out so the single leftover can do whatever it wants...
Re:DOJ will push Google to sell off Chrome by dismalaf on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @02:52PM (#42197469)
Here's a list of members of the W3C:

https://www.w3.org/membership/list/

It's a lot more than just Google...

Re:DOJ will push Google to sell off Chrome by rc_mob on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @12:06PM (#42185669)
As a long time FF user what is one website that breaks on FF?

my ad-blockers ruin plenty of websites. never met a site that was broken due to FF itself.

Re:DOJ will push Google to sell off Chrome by mulmen on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @04:51PM (#42188484)
I see them all the time on internal websites. Corporate frontend devs favor Chrome and those sites aren’t automatically tested.
Re:DOJ will push Google to sell off Chrome by kaba0 on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @01:18AM (#42191247)
Miro board is simply unusably slow, but plenty of other commonly used websites have annoying breakages, like login screen not actually logging in and the others.
Re:DOJ will push Google to sell off Chrome by shiroiushi on Thursday November 21, 2024 @04:02AM (#42202411)
Facebook Messenger video chat. It straight up doesn't work. I have to open a Chromium instance to chat with my family.
Re:DOJ will push Google to sell off Chrome by xnx on Saturday November 23, 2024 @01:37PM (#42222733)
Good example, but sounds like Facebook or Firefox are to blame for this, not Google.
Re:DOJ will push Google to sell off Chrome by shiroiushi on Sunday November 24, 2024 @07:06PM (#42231809)
The parent asked for examples of sites that don't work on Firefox. I gave him one. No one was talking about who to blame.