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Re:$8k Suzuki from India Received a 5-Star Crash Test Rating by merek on Monday November 18, 2024 @09:58PM (#42179699)
The speed at which airbags deploy is mind blowing. In the video, the steering wheel air bag starts deploying around 20 ms after impact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRKAR0IZlgE

Re:$8k Suzuki from India Received a 5-Star Crash Test Rating by equestria on Monday November 18, 2024 @10:22PM (#42179824)
Why? 20 ms is a very long time in the world of digital electronics. 1 MHz = 1 microsecond ticks, and most embedded MCUs run 10x to 100x faster than that. Sensors and ADCs commonly have microsecond-range response times, too.

The mechanical part (rapid inflation) is more interesting, but for a long time, they did it the "obvious" way: a precisely-calibrated explosive charge, just enough to fill the bag without tearing it apart. Now, I think they're moving toward compressed air, which probably requires some clever engineering to build a sufficiently responsive electronically-controlled valve.

Re:$8k Suzuki from India Received a 5-Star Crash Test Rating by fracus on Monday November 18, 2024 @10:37PM (#42179899)
It's like you answered your own question.
Re:$8k Suzuki from India Received a 5-Star Crash Test Rating by equestria on Monday November 18, 2024 @10:40PM (#42179912)
The parent described it as "mind-blowing"; I was curious about that.
Re:$8k Suzuki from India Received a 5-Star Crash Test Rating by jkestner on Monday November 18, 2024 @10:53PM (#42179967)
Maybe they meant it literally, if your head's in the wrong place.
Re:$8k Suzuki from India Received a 5-Star Crash Test Rating by swiftcoder on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @03:16AM (#42181056)
20ms isn't all that long a window over which to filter all that sensor data and determine that you are actually in a crash (and didn't just take a speed bump a little too fast).

False-positive airbag deployments are not viewed very positively by the affected user (even if its strictly better than a single false negative)

Re:$8k Suzuki from India Received a 5-Star Crash Test Rating by prennert on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @07:12AM (#42182586)
A false positive is essentially a false negative (the airbag cannot inflate twice), plus the consequences of knocking the drivers hands off the steering wheel, obscuring their sight and causing a shock that will in most cases cause an accident.

So a false positive seems strictly worse than a false negative to me.

Re:$8k Suzuki from India Received a 5-Star Crash Test Rating by swiftcoder on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @02:43AM (#42191612)
Yes, I guess at speed that is likely the case. It's more the 5-mile-an-hour fender-bender that tends annoy the user when it harmlessly/needlessly deploys the airbags
Re:$8k Suzuki from India Received a 5-Star Crash Test Rating by chakintosh on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @03:24AM (#42181111)
> around 20 ms after impact.

that's the standard for all airbags

https://www.iihs.org/topics/airbags