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Re:Valve developers discuss why Half Life 2: Episode 3 was a... by mrbungie on Monday November 18, 2024 @05:49PM (#42177971)
I mean, no product is better than a shitty product in this case.
Re:Valve developers discuss why Half Life 2: Episode 3 was a... by Wowfunhappy on Monday November 18, 2024 @05:52PM (#42177995)
I actually don't agree! They need to resolve the cliffhanger. Leaving it unresolved retroactively makes the whole package worse.

That's not to say I'd be happy with a Mass Effect 3 style ending, but it doesn't need to be some earth shattering gameplay experience.

Re:Valve developers discuss why Half Life 2: Episode 3 was a... by bartread on Monday November 18, 2024 @06:02PM (#42178105)
Nope, nope, nope.

Think about the Matrix series. The first Matrix film was iconic, the second was decent but sort of mid, the third was absolute drek and it taints the entire franchise as a result. I can't watch The Matrix any more without knowing how they fucked up the third film and without that slightly ruining the experience. The fourth I watched but I must admit that it hasn't really left any kind of impression on me.

Resolving at any cost is way worse than leaving something hanging.

I think it's why Firefly is so well regarded: it didn't last long enough to fall to enshittification. And when they did resolve it they only had a feature film's length to do it, so they had to focus and we got Serenity, which is excellent and how they resolved the origin of the Reavers is still a great piece of storytelling.

Re:Valve developers discuss why Half Life 2: Episode 3 was a... by fernandopj on Monday November 18, 2024 @06:53PM (#42178582)
I agree. Matrix 3 introduces logic-breaking solutions that contradict the entire premise of that universe, and so the whole is lesser for it.

> Resolving at any cost is way worse than leaving something hanging.

Also agree. Matrix, Lost, Game of Thrones (TV), How I Met Your Mother, they all lost "replayability" because you might care about the characters and the beginning of their journey, but if you know it's all moot or unsatisfactory there's not so many incentives to revisit it. I think GoT really made TV aware of how important it is to a series to have a good, consistent ending.

Game of Thrones' (the book series) fans have a theory about the "Mereenese Knot", a plot that became so convoluted that GRR Martin possibly just don't know how to advance the story in a consistent way, and it's stuck.

Re:Valve developers discuss why Half Life 2: Episode 3 was a... by dom96 on Monday November 18, 2024 @06:36PM (#42178453)
What a weird example to choose. I (and many others) continue to enjoy rewatching The Matrix even though the third one has some boring elements.
Re:Valve developers discuss why Half Life 2: Episode 3 was a... by bigstrat2003 on Monday November 18, 2024 @06:03PM (#42178122)
I mean, the third matrix movie was by far the best in my book. But taste is subjective and all that.
Re:Valve developers discuss why Half Life 2: Episode 3 was a... by ClassyJacket on Monday November 18, 2024 @06:37PM (#42178458)
I simply don't believe you.
Re:Valve developers discuss why Half Life 2: Episode 3 was a... by bigstrat2003 on Monday November 18, 2024 @06:44PM (#42178528)
You realize calling someone a liar is extremely rude, right? Especially given that this is a purely personal opinion which you cannot possibly have evidence to disprove.
Re:Valve developers discuss why Half Life 2: Episode 3 was a... by iwontberude on Monday November 18, 2024 @06:21PM (#42178289)
I actually enjoyed the third movie a lot. I don’t know why it is hated so much. Fourth movie was an unapologetic cash grab.
Re:Valve developers discuss why Half Life 2: Episode 3 was a... by readyplayernull on Monday November 18, 2024 @06:40PM (#42178491)
Yeah, first movie was sort of "unique", the second one was a cliffhanger for the third one that finally explained what The One was all about. Spoiler for you: Smith is The Zero.
Re:Valve developers discuss why Half Life 2: Episode 3 was a... by aranelsurion on Monday November 18, 2024 @08:20PM (#42179206)
> Fourth movie was an unapologetic cash grab.

The only part I thoroughly enjoyed was when they meta-explained why they've made the cash grab.

For those who haven't watched: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10838180/quotes/?item=qt6078617...

Chefs kiss

Re:Valve developers discuss why Half Life 2: Episode 3 was a... by iwontberude on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @11:24AM (#42185194)
Just because they are honestly able to tell me they are phoning it in for money, doesn’t do anything for me. I’m glad that I won’t be watching Keanu anymore. He was so bad, especially in cyberpunk. Ugh.
Re:Valve developers discuss why Half Life 2: Episode 3 was a... by perryizgr8 on Monday November 18, 2024 @08:55PM (#42179399)
What fourth movie?
Re:Valve developers discuss why Half Life 2: Episode 3 was a... by bigstrat2003 on Monday November 18, 2024 @06:03PM (#42178113)
I disagree personally. Even a shitty ending to the story is better than nothing at all.