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Re:How Japanese Black Companies Oppress Workers and Ruin Lives by WalterBright on Monday November 18, 2024 @02:00AM (#42170391)
The reason is explicable - health insurance paid by the employer is tax-deductible, while insurance paid by the employee is not. Therefore, employers include it as a way to increase total compensation at a lower cost.

The origin of the practice was in WW2, when Roosevelt froze wages. To attract more and better employees, the companies threw in health insurance as a way around the restrictions.

Re:How Japanese Black Companies Oppress Workers and Ruin Lives by ponow on Monday November 18, 2024 @04:18AM (#42170930)
Thanks for reminding us that state intervention is the source of the problem.

Stop linking medical insurance to employment via this tax bigotry. Buy it on the open market instead, or subsidize it if you're a leftist, but don't put that burden on jobs, you'll only get fewer jobs with greater hassle. People can agree to the arrangements they prefer, and it's not for us to second guess that. If there are people who end up coming up short, then you can help them yourself, or force the whole society to chip in (again, if you're a leftist), but don't force such considerations on the fragile links among private individuals and businesses.

Re:How Japanese Black Companies Oppress Workers and Ruin Lives by KptMarchewa on Monday November 18, 2024 @08:59AM (#42172322)
>The reason is explicable - health insurance paid by the employer is tax-deductible, while insurance paid by the employee is not.

It would be very easy to reverse, if literally anyone was willing to.

Re:How Japanese Black Companies Oppress Workers and Ruin Lives by jayd16 on Monday November 18, 2024 @10:43AM (#42173435)
Hillary was for single payer. Trump ran on repealing even the ACA. I don't think it's as simple as literally anyone.
Re:How Japanese Black Companies Oppress Workers and Ruin Lives by KptMarchewa on Monday November 18, 2024 @11:09AM (#42173733)
I'm not talking about changing the healthcare system entirely, but the tax deduction status.
Re:How Japanese Black Companies Oppress Workers and Ruin Lives by consteval on Monday November 18, 2024 @11:33AM (#42174019)
Right, but we're currently at a point politically where we're heavily considering regressions in healthcare and insurance, not progressions. We're talking about bringing back denying coverage for existing conditions and allowing insurance to deny medication on grounds of religious reasons.

Changing the tax deduction status would harm businesses, and therefore I can't see a conservative administration ever letting that fly.

Re:How Japanese Black Companies Oppress Workers and Ruin Lives by KptMarchewa on Monday November 18, 2024 @11:47AM (#42174184)
Which goes again to my original point.
Re:How Japanese Black Companies Oppress Workers and Ruin Lives by kelnos on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @01:24AM (#42191267)
Sure, but the inexplicable bit is that there's no actual reason it has to be that way.

There's no reason why a law cannot be passed amending the tax code to make health insurance premiums paid by an individual tax deductible.

I'm not saying it would be easy to get such a law passed, but that doesn't change the fact that it's stupid to have health insurance tied to your employer.

(At any rate, health insurance premiums are tax deductible, but the rules are annoying and require that your healthcare spending be a certain percentage of your income.)