Re:Voyager 1 Breaks Its Silence with NASA via Radio Transmit...
by tapland on Sunday November 17, 2024 @11:33PM
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And Europe.
Finalizing the shutdowns of 2G and 3G networks in Sweden during 2025.
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Re:Voyager 1 Breaks Its Silence with NASA via Radio Transmit...
by Maxion on Monday November 18, 2024 @02:20AM
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Finland will still keep 2G for a long time.
Re:Voyager 1 Breaks Its Silence with NASA via Radio Transmit...
by throwaway2037 on Monday November 18, 2024 @03:08AM
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Is there a particular reason? And how do you know so much about 2G in Finland, specifically!?
Re:Voyager 1 Breaks Its Silence with NASA via Radio Transmit...
by ncruces on Monday November 18, 2024 @04:45AM
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Portugal will keep it too.
Dumb phones are still being sold that are 2G only.
Not just that, but “landlines” are still being offered that are really a 2G phone restricted to work only in the vicinity of a home that's not (yet?) covered by actual landlines.
It's also used by emergency services.
It's considered a technology of last resort, and the service provider that wins the concession to provide it, with 100% coverage of a given area, probably finds it useful that it can meet the conditions with such tech.
3G has already shut down.
Re:Voyager 1 Breaks Its Silence with NASA via Radio Transmit...
by mrweasel on Monday November 18, 2024 @05:03AM
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Denmark does the same. 3G has been shutdown, or mostly at least. 2G is kept running, with no plans to shut it down in the future.
Things that uses 2G:
- Electricity meters
- Alarm systems
- Cooling and heating systems
- Rat traps (?)
- And an absolute crap-ton of early "IoT" devices.
And it's considered a backup network, with better coverage and range than 4G/5G. It also makes sense as the country is actively starting to remove the old landlines. The first cables are actively been removed from the ground.
Re:Voyager 1 Breaks Its Silence with NASA via Radio Transmit...
by tapland on Monday November 18, 2024 @10:09AM
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Yeah, there was a lot of debates when they started relying on cell networks for alarms systems (mostly for the elderly) as a way to not have to maintain the copper.
Re:Voyager 1 Breaks Its Silence with NASA via Radio Transmit...
by fifilura on Monday November 18, 2024 @08:38AM
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A guess...
1G (NMT) and 2G networks have been used in forestry. Very often the machines are far from a mast and need the extra range to communicate.
And in general Finland is a sparsely populated country.
Re:Voyager 1 Breaks Its Silence with NASA via Radio Transmit...
by veltas on Monday November 18, 2024 @02:52AM
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Yup and in the UK a lot of our card payment boxes for car parks will stop working when 3G is shut down, and will be replaced with an app. People without phones need not apply!
Re:Voyager 1 Breaks Its Silence with NASA via Radio Transmit...
by wvh on Monday November 18, 2024 @04:29AM
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One can see how quickly people could drop through the bottom of society once you can't afford to pay your phone or car bills. None of that technology comes cheap, not at least if you hit hard times for a while, and you will become a second class citizen.
Re:Voyager 1 Breaks Its Silence with NASA via Radio Transmit...
by eru on Monday November 18, 2024 @05:10AM
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Luckily, technology has become cheaper and cheaper over time, and continues to do so.
Re:Voyager 1 Breaks Its Silence with NASA via Radio Transmit...
by account42 on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @05:38AM
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Don't worry, software developers will keep upping the minimum requirements to compensate.
Re:Voyager 1 Breaks Its Silence with NASA via Radio Transmit...
by circlefavshape on Monday November 18, 2024 @04:41AM
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Really? Oh man ... I was in the UK this summer and had to install a different app to pay for parking (or car charging) in every city I went to, and some of them wouldn't accept a non-UK licence plate :( High demand for developers keeps my salary high, but it's all such a waste.
Re:Voyager 1 Breaks Its Silence with NASA via Radio Transmit...
by robertlagrant on Monday November 18, 2024 @10:12AM
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It is nice with the app though. Topping up, alerts, GPS for where your car is. It's annoying it's multiple apps, but the apps do add value.