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Re:Treating bullying as everyone's problem reduces incidence... by ab5tract on Saturday November 16, 2024 @05:32PM (#42159982)
No, they couldn’t.

Just a single obvious example: What tools did they have to broadcast photoshopped images of you to all of your peers?

Re:Treating bullying as everyone's problem reduces incidence... by thaumasiotes on Saturday November 16, 2024 @05:56PM (#42160204)
Printers.

If you're thinking "what tools did they have to create photoshopped images of you with?", why would you attribute that to social media?

Re:Treating bullying as everyone's problem reduces incidence... by bigfudge on Saturday November 16, 2024 @06:14PM (#42160374)
Is it possible you are being thick here? Mentally rehearse the process of photoshopping your victims image and then printing it out and circulating it to everyone in the class before or at bedtime.
Re:Treating bullying as everyone's problem reduces incidence... by teamonkey on Saturday November 16, 2024 @06:43PM (#42160586)
No, they were printed out, hung up around school, posted into lockers…
Re:Treating bullying as everyone's problem reduces incidence... by lostlogin on Saturday November 16, 2024 @07:22PM (#42160832)
I suppose it was all just as bad before printers too?

You just did a lot of oil paintings. And prior to that you did some cave drawings?

Re:Treating bullying as everyone's problem reduces incidence... by hackable_sand on Sunday November 17, 2024 @02:17AM (#42162515)
Y'all are literally bullying here.

The irony would be hilarious, if it wasn't just straight up mean.

Re:Treating bullying as everyone's problem reduces incidence... by bigfudge on Sunday November 17, 2024 @02:46AM (#42162639)
If it comes across that way apologies. I was honestly suspecting that the post I was replying to was being deliberately obtuse, but I guess it’s possible that this happened to them and it’s unduly salient as a consequence.
Re:Treating bullying as everyone's problem reduces incidence... by hackable_sand on Monday November 18, 2024 @12:04AM (#42169854)
Y'all never stopped to consider their point.

Let me give you an analogy:

An apple takes 1 year to fall from a tree.

An apple takes 1 seconds to fall from a tree.

An apple falls from a tree.

No difference.

Re:Treating bullying as everyone's problem reduces incidence... by amatecha on Saturday November 16, 2024 @06:50PM (#42160630)
Are you really trying to suggest that printing out 500-1000 copies of a photo and handing it out physically to all the kids in the school is the same as effortlessly spamming the same image out through online groups/chats? Come on, man.
Re:Treating bullying as everyone's problem reduces incidence... by lelandbatey on Saturday November 16, 2024 @06:16PM (#42160406)
While technically true in describing the possibility, there is a big difference in ease between printing a photo and sending a message to a user via a digital platform e.g. WhatsApp.

To physically bully you before with a compromising (but fake) photo, the bully would need to physically distribute said images to the presence of your friends and family, which requires time, knowledge of their location, etc. Not so now; if you used a social network and they could see connections to other users (such as family members) then they can just follow those connections by messaging those people directly.

That difference in scale and ease for the bully is real vis-a-vis physically vs social media.

Re:Treating bullying as everyone's problem reduces incidence... by ben_w on Sunday November 17, 2024 @04:09AM (#42162959)
When I was at school, printers were expensive and bad, cameras weren't digital and film was non-trivial price to buy and also to develop, and the one single scanner we had was one-bit black and white.

And normal people on the internet was told to never ever reveal their name or address to others online for fear bad people would misuse that info.

Re:Treating bullying as everyone's problem reduces incidence... by delusional on Sunday November 17, 2024 @02:26AM (#42162553)
I dont mean to be nasty, but what sort of turbo nerds are bullying you if they decide to Photoshop images. Back in my day, bullying was about repeatedly keeping people out of the ingroup until they internalized their otherness. It was opportunistic. We didn't plan elaborate scenarios, we called him gay when he spoke about something he cared about. That was enough.

If anything, social media would give that kid more opportunities to find a group that will accept them.

Re:Treating bullying as everyone's problem reduces incidence... by monkeyfun on Sunday November 17, 2024 @05:13AM (#42163216)
Now imagine you're calling that kid gay constantly and you can look at all the worst stuff whenever you feel like to go mock it extra as a bully. And they only have to know it's you if you feel like it. (Anxiety's a big thing to remember there too, anxiety and obsessions and any historical traumas)

It's not a world of difference, but it might explain why it's not as stark as you might expect at worst.