Re:80286 ATX mainboard based on the IBM 5170 AT PC
by moosedev on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @02:09PM
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Those are SRAMs. A 286 system wants DRAM, which is usually a lot cheaper.
https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/difference-between-sram-and-dr...
Re:80286 ATX mainboard based on the IBM 5170 AT PC
by rasz on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @04:17PM
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286 doesnt want anything, CPU is ram agnostic. Project author didnt want to mess with implementing DRAM controller, not that its difficult. Here a simple 16 bit controller realized with ten 74xx chips https://amigaprj.blogspot.com/2013/05/amiga-fast-ram-expande...
Re:80286 ATX mainboard based on the IBM 5170 AT PC
by moosedev on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @06:59PM
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Oh right, I didn’t read far enough to see there’s no DRAM support - very unusual for a 286 system (at least a PC-compatible one). That’s a big tradeoff, indeed. Thanks!
Re:80286 ATX mainboard based on the IBM 5170 AT PC
by rasz on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @08:18PM
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I wouldnt call it a tradeoff. Author didnt want to design memory controller, and SRAM gets him effortless 0 wait state access.
Personally Im also a fan of keeping ram oldschool. I even reverse engineered a ram card for a 386 board just last week https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16
Re:80286 ATX mainboard based on the IBM 5170 AT PC
by moosedev on Thursday November 14, 2024 @07:38AM
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The tradeoff would be speed and implementation simplicity against the high cost of SRAM, like you highlighted :)
(Re your 386 RAM board: Nice necroproject!)
Re:80286 ATX mainboard based on the IBM 5170 AT PC
by lproven on Thursday November 14, 2024 @05:50AM
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Ah, OK, it is all static RAM? Ouch...
Re:80286 ATX mainboard based on the IBM 5170 AT PC
by NikkiA on Saturday November 16, 2024 @03:17AM
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> about $500-1000 https://eu.mouser.com/c/semiconductors/memory-ics/sram/?memo...
Only because you're including RAM spec'ed at 75pS access times.
If you limit the selection to 133MHz (the slowest 'max speed' - ridiculous, you can still easily purchase NEW 50nS and 70nS SRAM elsewhere, this is why I don't buy from mouser)...
Then the price falls to £5 for a 32MB (256Mbit) chip, which isn't excessively priced, but it still more than I paid for similar chips a few weeks ago.
about $500-1000 https://eu.mouser.com/c/semiconductors/memory-ics/sram/?memo...
>Why not just
he said the magic words!