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Re:Two Upstart Search Engines Are Teaming Up to Take on Google by onli on Tuesday November 12, 2024 @08:40AM (#42115382)
Brave search is a continuation of cliqz. A German company that developed a proper search engine, with an independent index. They shut down, but the tech got sold off.

Cliqz was the first time for me that a Google alternative actually worked really well - and it, or now brave search, is what parent was asking for :)

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Re:Two Upstart Search Engines Are Teaming Up to Take on Google by prophesi on Tuesday November 12, 2024 @04:17PM (#42119800)
Yet we're still back to Larry Page and Sergey Brin's conclusion in their "The Anatomy of a Large-Scale Hypertextual Web Search Engine" research paper[0]:

> We expect that advertising funded search engines will be inherently biased towards the advertisers and away from the needs of the consumers.

Brave Search Premium hasn't been around nearly as long as their free tier serving ads, and I'm not confident this conflict of interest is gone.

Having independent indexes is a win regardless though.

[0] https://snap.stanford.edu/class/cs224w-readings/Brin98Anatom...

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Re:Two Upstart Search Engines Are Teaming Up to Take on Google by BrendanEich on Monday November 18, 2024 @04:21PM (#42177186)
Brave Search Premium launched before we showed any search ads:

https://x.com/brave/status/1466510541128548362

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