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Re:OpenAI's new "Orion" model reportedly shows small gains o... by danpalmer on Monday November 11, 2024 @04:04AM (#42105565)
This doesn’t surprise me at all. I expect we’ll shift from a focus on the models to models being fairly commoditised and a focus on the UX, interaction model, and new use cases.

It seems clear to me that most value will come from little bits of LLM integrated into other applications. Code autocomplete is a good example of this, it’s valuable because it’s a key press away in the workflow we’re already in. Email editing clearly works best in an email client. Generating an image for a slide deck is most useful in the slide authoring application… and so on.

There’s plenty of product discovery to be done and value to be realised in this space.

Re:OpenAI's new "Orion" model reportedly shows small gains o... by notarobot123 on Monday November 11, 2024 @05:00AM (#42105854)
The marketing hype around ever increasing improvements meeting the reality of an apparent ceiling looks like it might spell mass disillusionment. Dialing back the AI enthusiasm seems like a good bet at this point.

Products are still going to increasingly capitalize on existing capabilities, like you say, but I wonder if the "AI everywhere" phenomenon might end up being a turn-off for a significant number of customers.

Re:OpenAI's new "Orion" model reportedly shows small gains o... by Wheatman on Monday November 11, 2024 @05:58AM (#42106185)
It already is harming sales apparently, little to no of the reviews on the new iphone even mention AI even though they spent a lot of money marketing for it. It even seems to hurt its sales.

I wouldn't bet on a full-on ai wonter soon, but it starting to seem more and more likely the more hype companies are trying to build on it.

Re:OpenAI's new "Orion" model reportedly shows small gains o... by JustFinishedBSG on Monday November 11, 2024 @06:24AM (#42106346)
iPhone reviews don’t mention AI because : 1. They didn’t exist in iOS 18.0 at release. Can’t review it if it doesn’t exist 2. it still doesn’t exist in the majority of the world in iOS 18.1. If you are not in the US or UK, Apple Intelligence just doesn’t exist
Re:OpenAI's new "Orion" model reportedly shows small gains o... by Wheatman on Monday November 11, 2024 @06:41AM (#42106437)
Cheked, it is True,I rarely see or hear about iphones, so i just heard they sold badly and made a connection.

Though why was that fact never mentioned in the adverts? Or did i just not notice?

Re:OpenAI's new "Orion" model reportedly shows small gains o... by tim333 on Monday November 11, 2024 @10:28AM (#42107805)
I just had a look and though I can't use my iphone 13, apparently the m1 macbook should be ok, so I'm trying to update the os to 15.1 and give it a go. I can't say the features seem super exciting though:

Writing Tools

Clean Up in Photos

Create a Memory film in Photos

Natural language search in Photos

Reduce Interruptions Focus

...

I mean its nice but stuff that mostly seems out there on the web already. The auto turning photos into film is mostly something I have to spend time figuring how to turn off. We shall see. Sticking my phone into 'focus mode' without telling me was one of the worst things Apple has ever done to me. I missed important calls because I expected my phone to work as a phone as usual.

Re:OpenAI's new "Orion" model reportedly shows small gains o... by anshumankmr on Tuesday November 12, 2024 @03:04AM (#42113658)
Yeah I have an iPhone 15 plus and I am in Bangalore, I tried installig the update, changed the language and everything but no Apple intelligence on my phone.
Re:OpenAI's new "Orion" model reportedly shows small gains o... by JimDabell on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @06:26AM (#42125086)
> If you are not in the US or UK, Apple Intelligence just doesn’t exist

Technically, only the US is supported. If you are British and you try to enable it, you’ll be told that it’s not available in your language. To get it to work, you need to switch your device language from English (UK) to English (US).

Apple says “English (Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, South Africa, UK) language support available this December.”

Since access is controlled by your language setting and not your location, I don’t think this is a regulatory thing. No idea why it takes Apple months to localise from American English to any other type of English.

Re:OpenAI's new "Orion" model reportedly shows small gains o... by llamaimperative on Monday November 11, 2024 @06:09AM (#42106237)
Pretty sure most Apple Intelligence features aren’t released yet and the few that are were released like 2 weeks ago.
Re:OpenAI's new "Orion" model reportedly shows small gains o... by caeril on Monday November 11, 2024 @10:49AM (#42107985)
There's still a ton of room left in short error-correcting RLHF or fine-tune cycles.

I expect there will be, at some point, "trusted" or "verified" accounts that are able to flag a completion as wrong, and provide it with a correct completion, which will be collated and used (daily? hourly?) to fine-tune the weights. Active inference cluster would be switched as A/B/C etc.

Re:OpenAI's new "Orion" model reportedly shows small gains o... by arnaudsm on Monday November 11, 2024 @06:02PM (#42111216)
I agree, and I'm baffled by how little we invest in UX for AI. Most companies just put a chat box and call it a day. Everyone seems to focus on gaining 0.1% in MMLU
Re:OpenAI's new "Orion" model reportedly shows small gains o... by anshumankmr on Tuesday November 12, 2024 @03:03AM (#42113650)
Yeah even if it isn't AGI, I still feel call centers are practically doomed at this point, and given time, these models can and will replace those people.

I also happened to know a copywriter who said she was laid off cause of ChatGPT.

It still is going to be a disruptive technology, though it is not perfect by any means.

Re:OpenAI's new "Orion" model reportedly shows small gains o... by Sateeshm on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @03:41PM (#42129751)
Call centers have been doomed for some time now