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Re:It's legal for police to use deception in interrogations.... by tolerance on Friday November 08, 2024 @09:26PM (#42092122)
I’m curious why you chose to draw the line there.
Re:It's legal for police to use deception in interrogations.... by kyleee on Friday November 08, 2024 @10:24PM (#42092322)
Are you really? Ever heard the line “dog is a man’s best friend”? Or seen that Jon Wick movie?
Re:It's legal for police to use deception in interrogations.... by tolerance on Friday November 08, 2024 @10:43PM (#42092395)
I reckon that once the police start trying to frame a man for the imaginary murder of his own father, threatening to actually kill his dog sounds like the most drab of offenses Especially on account of that coming into play later.
Re:It's legal for police to use deception in interrogations.... by pdpi on Saturday November 09, 2024 @03:38AM (#42093295)
Your “trying to frame a man” is their “trying to get him to confess to something he did”. It’s intellectually lazy on their part to jump to that conclusion without any sort of due diligence, but it’s not necessarily evil per se.

Threatening to kill the dog is just plain cruel.

Re:It's legal for police to use deception in interrogations.... by tolerance on Saturday November 09, 2024 @07:31AM (#42094067)
I’ll try to keep this in mind in case you and I cross paths while I have the upper hand and I happen to be feeling an intellectually lazy sort of way.

Whatever happens shouldn’t be attributed to malice. I won’t hurt your pets. My superiors ought to award me for it. I was just being stupid.

Re:It's legal for police to use deception in interrogations.... by ClumsyPilot on Saturday November 09, 2024 @07:58AM (#42094187)
> Your “trying to frame a man” is their “trying to get him to confess to something he did”.

This is not a valid activity. Either you have proof or you don’t.

A proper hardened criminal will never confess.

If you have a confession, it’s >70% chance for perversion of justice:

A terrorist will confess because they want fame

In Russia you pay someone to ‘confess’ for your crime and go to prison instead of you.

The naive, mentally infirm will confess, often to things they didn’t do.

Or you managed to torture a confession out of someone, like they did here.

Confessions lead straight to Spanish Inquisition type of justice

Re:It's legal for police to use deception in interrogations.... by kybernetikos on Saturday November 09, 2024 @03:56AM (#42093345)
The reason John Wick did that is because "man murders hundreds of people, but its ok for us to admire him for it because they deserved it because they killed his wife /girlfriend" is entirely overdone.

People do of course care about their pets, but John Wick used the death of a pet as its instigating event because it was different, not because it was a remotely usual way to respond to a pets death.