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Re:Ambulance hits cyclist, rushes him to hospital, then stic... by sottol on Friday November 08, 2024 @01:11AM (#42084594)
Yes, on the margins cycling is more dangerous in the USA. OTOH, I wouldn't be surprised if the physical exercise would reduce mortality enough to still be a net positive on the margins - biking to the bakery vs driving - but haven't verified that.

Interesting tidbit from the report is that almost 50% of fatalities are in towns <100k population, 16% outside towns and 34% in pop centers > 100k. I would have guessed metro areas are more dangerous.

Re:Ambulance hits cyclist, rushes him to hospital, then stic... by ggreer on Friday November 08, 2024 @11:47AM (#42088268)
There is no country in which cycling is safer than driving. Even in the Netherlands, the fatality rate is 13 deaths per billion miles. For comparison, the Netherlands has 3 deaths per billion miles by car.
Re:Ambulance hits cyclist, rushes him to hospital, then stic... by sottol on Friday November 08, 2024 @12:35PM (#42088707)
I still think it's not useful to compare fatalities per billion miles, especially cycling and driving (and especially if that includes highway driving, which is clearly not something you could use a bike for instead).

Iceland had several years with zero or one reported cycling fatalities, I can't find road fatalities quickly but I assume driving is less safe there, especially if I'm allowed to cherry-pick a zero-fatality year (where you'd have 0 fatalities per billion miles cycled).

Re:Ambulance hits cyclist, rushes him to hospital, then stic... by Mawr on Saturday November 09, 2024 @03:20AM (#42093229)
It's the other way around, overwhelmingly so:

"With 290 cyclist fatalities in 2022, cyclists were the largest group of road casualties." [1]

"Cycling prevents about 6500 deaths each year, and Dutch people have half-a-year-longer life expectancy because of cycling. These health benefits correspond to more than 3% of the Dutch gross domestic product. Our study confirmed that investments in bicycle-promoting policies (e.g., improved bicycle infrastructure and facilities) will likely yield a high cost–benefit ratio in the long term." [2]

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That's just the big picture though, I suspect your statistics are wrong directly as well. Cycling deaths are very skewed towards the elderly [3], so it appears that if you're under 50, cycling is statistically safer than driving, no matter how you look at it.

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[1]: https://english.kimnet.nl/publications/publications/2023/11/...

[2]: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4504332/

[3]: https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/0... (https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2024/03/06/cycling-safety...)