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Re:Ambulance hits cyclist, rushes him to hospital, then stic... by JumpCrisscross on Thursday November 07, 2024 @09:21PM (#42083480)
> People drive with a suspended license all the time

And if they’re not getting in accidents more frequently than population, that’s fine. I didn’t include this common citation for good reason.

> How else are getting to your job? Getting groceries?

Calling (or buying) a robotic car. We’re looking decades into the future when manually piloting a car is a privilege. (Or less than a decade in cities with public transit.)

If you’re driving drunk, hitting things, recklessly speeding or texting while driving, you shouldn’t be driving. We tolerate it, extraordinarily, because driving is almost a right in America. What’s changing is it’s going from a necessity everywhere but New York to a necessity where there isn’t Uber.

(In practice, at least from the few folks I know close to the incoming White House, it will happen through increasing liability for insurers. Nobody will be banned. It will just become expensive to human pilot. Or, if your FSD or equivalent isn’t engaged, hard to dispute fault.)

Re:Ambulance hits cyclist, rushes him to hospital, then stic... by Dylan16807 on Thursday November 07, 2024 @09:36PM (#42083557)
> Calling (or buying) a robotic car.

If it's cost effective, sure.

Until that's significantly cheaper, people need to drive.

> increasing liability for insurers. Nobody will be banned. It will just become expensive to human pilot.

Why would human driving insurance cost significantly more than it does today?

Re:Ambulance hits cyclist, rushes him to hospital, then stic... by JumpCrisscross on Thursday November 07, 2024 @09:39PM (#42083576)
> Until that's significantly cheaper, people need to drive

Not in cities, even today. That region is simply broadening.

Public car insurance for poor, risky drivers has zero popular appeal. This will happen gradually then quickly.

Re:Ambulance hits cyclist, rushes him to hospital, then stic... by Dylan16807 on Thursday November 07, 2024 @09:41PM (#42083582)
I didn't mean everyone, I meant it was the typical case.

And it's only some cities where it's similarly or more affordable to not have a car. Not nearly as many as it should be.

Re:Ambulance hits cyclist, rushes him to hospital, then stic... by kube-system on Friday November 08, 2024 @12:44PM (#42088793)
That sounds like a nice future if we can get there... but if we look at recently observed trends in the US, the increased barriers to driving a car in recent history has probably resulted in lower rates of legal compliance, rather than better driving behaviors.

The risk of hit-and-run accidents, uninsured drivers, and unlicensed drivers on the road are increasing.

While public transit could be a great solution, much of the poorest in the US cannot afford to live in places with good public transport because these areas have higher housing costs.

> We tolerate it, extraordinarily, because driving is almost a right in America.

Partially. But even the laws we do have are currently being ignored, because rates of compliance are so low that it isn't even practically feasible to enforce the law. In several US states, more than 20% of drivers are driving around without insurance. The underlying problem here is beyond what can be solved merely with enforcement.

I'm hopeful it eventually happens, but I think we're a very long way from a world where someone in small-town Mississippi can ride around in a robotic car on a McDonalds wage.