Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency
by dgfitz on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:47PM
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I honestly feel like the media was covering Harris quite a lot. Her message needed to be more than "he's a fascist" and while some might say, she had a stronger message than that, as an educated person who consumes news from all sides of the spectrum, I didn't see it.
Edit: In fact, some say she lost the election because of her performance directly in front of the news media on TV and whatnot.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency
by bitexploder on Saturday November 09, 2024 @01:59AM
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She was placed in a very difficult situation where she had to try and have her own policies and candidacy but also had to defend Biden.
There was also the difficulty for her campaign that she was not voted for in a primary, just picked.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency
by simple10 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:47PM
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Absolutely agree. Until we restore a proper and trusted free press, all political bets are off. Americans are living in isolated bubbles of information with little agreement on actual ground truth.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency
by worldsoup on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:55PM
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If this was the case then it seems that Harris would have won the race...the vast majority of the media I saw here in the US was going on and on about how Trump was a grave danger to democracy and in general just a terrible person and candidate. In regards to the media, I think this election shows that a large majority of the population simply does not believe them at all.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency
by jquery on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @05:05PM
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You don’t watch Fox News or listen to talk radio… it’s a nonstop drumbeat about how Kamala is a communist who will forcibly trans aborted prison babies. And “migrant crime” is up 10000000% and they’re lazy but also taking the jobs.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency
by worldsoup on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @05:20PM
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you're right I don't...but people that listen to that stuff were probably never going to vote for anyone other than Trump (anymore than listeners to MSNBC were going to stray from Harris). My primary sources are relatively centrist sources like WSJ and Economist as well as a variety of independent podcasts and the NYTimes. With a few exceptions on the podcast front all of these outlets were unabashedly anti-trump.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency
by tehs2 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @06:11PM
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The media gets too much flack. Harris was more favorably covered in the media than trump was, but he still won.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency
by xnx on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:30PM
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Depends on what "the media" is. Fox News has been the most watched news channel for 22 years.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency
by 13415 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:48PM
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Do you argue that Trump was elected because the media supported him more than Harris? Although Fox News and X are fully pro-Trump, of course, my impression is that the majority of media did not support Trump. So, I find that media control thesis hard to believe.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency
by xnx on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:32PM
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Fox News has been the most watched news channel for 22 years.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency
by mindslight on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @05:45PM
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Given how often the media would uncritically repeat upside-down nonsense like "Trump supporters say they're concerned with inflation" without any kind of analysis, yes, the overall media did tacitly support Trump.
I've no idea whether this was from the ownership class pulling strings to cut any real objective criticism of ZIRP corporate welfare, democrats uninterested in economics being blind to the fact that inflation actually has concrete causes, or from the writers having their brains steeped in things like racism-everywhere orthodoxy and thinking that referencing those narratives makes for a neutral objective article. But regardless of why, with friends like those...
While there is still more nuance to it than that, there is still truth. In the UK, one of Rupert Murdoch’s papers The Sun likes to boast about their political influence on voters. “It’s The Sun what won it.” This is a bare faced statement that The Sun basically decides on their candidate of choice and voters go with that.
So it is when you depend on a so-called free press to give you the facts in nice, bite-sized form.