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Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by ks2048 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:53AM (#42061513)
I think this could be correct if only look at what they say rather than what they do.

We'll see if Republicans in control are anti-war, anti-elite, pro free speech, pro-working class, anti-large-corps, etc.

I know where I'd place my bets on policies.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by cynicalpeace on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:10AM (#42061736)
This is a good point, but when you compare to Kamala, she's even worse on this front.

Kamala never talks like just a normal person. My wife was telling me this this morning. You can't get through the facade. How on earth are you gonna know what she's really gonna do?

My wife was like- "I just don't see Trump being a warmonger, but Kamala, she very well could be."

And then you take into account what she has said and done (Cheney anyone?) and it's open shut case of who's less warlike.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by kubectl_h on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:29AM (#42061966)
> "I just don't see Trump being a warmonger, but Kamala, she very well could be."

It's not Trump that will be the "warmonger", it's the people he empowers. Trump is a shallow personality -- all he wants is attention, he does not have an ideology. For the boring part of actually enacting policy he defers to supplicants and this time around his supplicants are more unserious and self-interested than the first time around.

This is just basic 2nd order reasoning that it seems like so many people in this country lack.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by pc86 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @09:16AM (#42062618)
All the Republicans who were against him being re-elected are the warhawk wing of the party. There is zero evidence of him being inclined to be a warmonger, and a lot of evidence (and history) to the contrary.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by cynicalpeace on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:38AM (#42062089)
> all he wants is attention, he does not have an ideology

This is not demonstrably true. He's had a consistent ideology since the beginning- MAGA and now MAHA too.

I used to think Trump was shallow, for maybe a few months in 2015. The problem with that is if you think Trump is shallow, it means all the people who voted for him and love him are stupid. In fact, you implied you think this:

> This is just basic 2nd order reasoning that it seems like so many people in this country lack.

Your operating philosophy cannot be that everyone who disagrees with you is stupid.

Your point about supplicants can be equally applied to Kamala.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by kubectl_h on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @09:12AM (#42062561)
> Your operating philosophy cannot be that everyone who disagrees with you is stupid.

I don't think people are stupid. I think they don't think things through.

MAGA is not a coherent political policy. Project 2025 is at least soundly documented and is probably the set of policies we'll see out of this admin.

I googled MAHA and it doesn't seem like a thing beyond a boilerplate website and twitter account nobody follows and some videos from RFK. Again, not a policy, just a platitude like MAGA and an unserious one at that.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by pc86 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @09:19AM (#42062649)
"Those people don't think things through" then parroting the objectively false Project 2025 nonsense.

OK then, think this through - Trump has said the parts of P25 he's read are stupid, he doesn't support it, and it's from a group of people who don't work for him (some of them used to but none did when it was published). It's bog standard DC think tank pablum that nobody cares about.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by kubectl_h on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @10:03AM (#42063391)
Even supporters of Trump routinely say that you shouldn't take him on face value, vis-a-vis tariffs, etc. Why should I take what he said about 2025 seriously? His son and VP are absolutely aligned with the goals of the Heritage Foundation.

It's exactly what he did with Roe, trusted and subsequently empowered people whose ideology is stronger and, frankly, unaligned with his and look what happened.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by pc86 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @11:59AM (#42065270)
Dobbs didn't happen because Trump got hoodwinked by a bunch of social conservatives. Maybe I'm retconning this in my brain but overturning Roe has been a thing with the GOP for a long time, Trump always said he was going to appoint conservative judges and justices, and he's said since that he'd veto a national abortion ban.

It's unfortunate that on this issue most of the GOP is in the "never, ever" camp and most of the left is in the "any time, any place, for any reason" camp. We'd be much better off as a country if we allowed it before ~20 weeks electively, disallowed it after ~20 weeks unless the mother is about to die, and just moved on. That would keep us more liberal on this issue than 99% of Europe, still protect people from unplanned pregnancy, and result in net fewer abortions in the US.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by kubectl_h on Thursday November 07, 2024 @09:48PM (#42083619)
Trump had no actual interest in who he nominated, he just followed the guidelines of organizations like Heritage. That's my point: Trump does not have an interrogative bone in his body and he can be manipulated into making decisions by much smarter people that are thinking multiple steps ahead of him.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by skulk on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @09:14AM (#42062595)
If you voted for him, possibly still not stupid. Love him? Definitely stupid.

> Your point about supplicants can be equally applied to Kamala.

Ah yes, the district attorney with a long political career is exactly same as the reality TV star.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by twohaibei on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:04PM (#42069374)
IMO Ex-president is a better credential than having a long political career, which often means, connected, corrupted and conformist.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by skulk on Thursday November 07, 2024 @09:46AM (#42077056)
And we can't think of any potential disqualifiers for this ex-president? Nothing at all?
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by archagon on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:31AM (#42061997)
Uh, Trump barely talks at all.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by cynicalpeace on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:34AM (#42062029)
Trump has many 3 hour long podcasts and routinely gives 3 hour long speeches, off the cuff.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by archagon on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:46AM (#42062203)
His ramblings are borderline incomprehensible.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by slackfan on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @10:06AM (#42063441)
Might wanna brush up on your english listening skills then.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by pxndxx on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @09:26AM (#42062763)
He does move his mouth a lot but I wouldn't call whatever sounds he produces "coherent speech"
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by BolexNOLA on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @12:03PM (#42065362)
You do realize almost every time he goes off the cuff Fox and co pretend it doesn’t happen or they immediately go into damage control if it spreads, right?
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by moogly on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @09:08AM (#42062499)
> Kamala never talks like just a normal person.

And Trump does? He says absolutely insane things.

However, "normal people" don't run for president.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by alach11 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @01:55PM (#42067382)
In an age of inauthenticity on social media, people are inherently drawn to someone who appears authentic. Trump comes across as a straight-shooter. People may not love everything he says, but they feel like they can trust him because he isn't hiding behind a mask.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by 9dev on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:44PM (#42069933)
Do you even notice yourself how you consistently refer to Harris as ”Kamala“, but Trump by his last name, and what that means in terms of respect towards the candidates?
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by dxbydt on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @05:07PM (#42070221)
The blame for why nobody says Donald goes to Walt Disney.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by cynicalpeace on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @05:48PM (#42070763)
Lame, boring