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Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by ZeroGravitas on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:23AM (#42061083)
But they can't use contraception to stop their wife dying from a miscarraige of a wanted child in a state where the doctors fear being jailed for taking the necessary medical steps for saving the mother's life, if that looks too much like an abortion.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by tekknik on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:42AM (#42061352)
This has already been covered. Any Dr too scared to read and interpret a law needs to give up their license because they’re pushing a political agenda.

If you don’t want to get pregnant it’s quite easy even if you don’t use contraceptives. Mistaken pregnancies need to go back to health class.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by whatever1 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @09:15AM (#42062602)
The hospitals turn women in trouble away instructing them to come back in a comma or something. Not sure what can be done.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by tekknik on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @11:11PM (#42073318)
maybe being actually dying or at risk of dying from a pregnancy?

look the entire point is to stop voluntary abortions, which make up like 98% of all abortions. most abortions are optional. nobody is against medically required abortions, not even religious people.

give up already on the old and invalidated arguments.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by whatever1 on Thursday November 07, 2024 @12:42AM (#42073773)
You sound rational, but the actual implications of the policy execution are brutal. As a father of a girl I am inconsolable.

Emergency rooms refused to treat pregnant women, leaving one to miscarry in a lobby restroom

https://apnews.com/article/pregnancy-emergency-care-abortion...

A pregnant teenager died after trying to get care in three visits to Texas emergency rooms

https://www.texastribune.org/2024/11/01/nevaeh-crain-death-t...

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by tekknik on Thursday November 07, 2024 @01:42AM (#42074102)
Sorry you’ve not convinced me. I am rational and that’s why I don’t believe that a very small minority being affected has any real or major repercussions. people need to just stop killing babies because they don’t want them
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by whatever1 on Thursday November 07, 2024 @02:45AM (#42074487)
Wow that is some serious goal post shifting. From “nobody is against medically required abortions, not even religious people” to “a very small minority being affected has no repercussions”.

Of course you will not be convinced.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by awkward on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @09:43AM (#42063022)
If you've dealt with human behavior at scale at all you know that more friction produces less activity. Of course doctors are going to deny treatment if it's treatment that comes with special legal scrutiny. Of course a new layer of legal review and approval is going to suppress the service that gets locked behind it.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by tekknik on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @11:09PM (#42073306)
so then they need to quit. we don’t need weak minded people as Drs.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by ff317 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @10:46AM (#42064055)
The laws in question are ambiguously worded and untested-yet in courts. They promise severe financial penalties and prison terms for offenders. I don't blame a doctor for being scared.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by tekknik on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @11:10PM (#42073310)
they are not. this is a political perspective.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by zpeti on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:34AM (#42061263)
Remind me again - who in the history of the world has ever not been ok with abortion to save the mother?
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by nindalf on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:40AM (#42061323)
I remember a notable Irish case where a mother died because the doctors refused to perform an abortion. Led to a constitutional change.

Woman dies after abortion request 'refused' at Galway hospital (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-20321741.amp).

There have been cases like this in America but I’m not going to look it up. Fortunately the other commenter did. Hope this changed your opinion :)

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by jampekka on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:44AM (#42061385)
You're vastly underestimating how cruel people can get, especially when they are on religion.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/01/21/us/abortion-b...

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by Retric on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:44AM (#42061378)
The line isn’t clear cut as at risk isn’t a guarantee.

Multiple US woman have already died when doctors where unwilling to intervene despite significant issues being present. There’s a lot of politics involved but as an example Josseli Barnica died in 2021 before row vs wade was overturned and doctors where refusing to act over legal concerns.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by gabrielhidasy on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:44AM (#42061374)
A few very religious people, but I don't think any of those had traction to get that into law in the US recently.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by ZeroGravitas on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:27AM (#42061951)
What do you think those "9-month abortions” people talk about are for?