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Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by immibis on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @06:34AM (#42060395)
What you're observing is that:

- there's immigration

- normal people are getting shafted

However, the two things are entirely unrelated.

However, the ones doing the shafting tell people they're related so often that people believe it.

Once again, we see a tactic identical to Nazi Germany. Hitler rose to power by saying the terrible economy was because of the Jews.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by theyarerelated on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:19AM (#42061046)
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by jvmboi81 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @06:55AM (#42060686)
That's really a quite very unrefined view of Hitler's rise to power. If you really want to prevent Hitler then you have to prevent the end-stage of the Weimar Republic. So, you'd need a strong economy, rule of law, public order and a culture of decency and trust. What makes people yearn for autocratic rule isn't "blaming the jews" it's the everyday circumstances that arise when liberals are done running a place into the ground. Like California, at the moment.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by Rinzler89 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:03AM (#42060808)
>it's the everyday circumstances that arise when liberals are done running a place into the ground.

Not just running the place into the ground, but also actively lecturing people how everything is fine and how it's their perception that is wrong. That's what really pisses people off and gets the to vote extremists as those tend to at least acknowledge some of the issues average people are facing or seeing.

Average working class people don't like being lectured by upper class higher educated elitists off their high horse on how they're wrong.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by bigfudge on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:18AM (#42061019)
This is idiotic. People who live in California just voted Harris. Their quality of life is fine. The irony is that it’s the redneck parts of the states that are suffering most from neoliberal austerity.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by Rinzler89 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:56AM (#42062331)
I wasn't talking about California but in general.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by bombcar on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @09:40AM (#42062963)
California has more Trump voters than a number of swing states combined.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by jvmboi81 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @10:59AM (#42064283)
It's just the same playbook. Deny problems, divert blame, call opponents bad names.

IF you were so interested in preventing the next Hitler what you would actually have to do is to rigorously oppose anything that threatens the livelihood of average people. Fighting inflation would be THE number one concern because you'd know that people carrying their money in wheelbarrows was what caused Hitler.

If you want to prevent Hitler, you'd fight like hell for decency. Homeless encampments? Open air drug dens? Only-fans? This would be your concern because you'd know that in the Weimar Republic rampant prostitution and other cultural decay is what caused Hitler.

If you wanted to prevent Hitler you'd also speak out sternly against Antifa and other violent extreme leftists, like those that caused the George Floyd riots, because you'd know that the breakdown of public order due to rampant political violence in the Weimar Republic is what caused Hitler.

Nobody on the left is doing any of that because nobody on the left really thinks Trump is a Nazi. It's just a label, just a tactic. And all it has done is to burn term. Trump or Maga or the current right reaction isn't the big bad. What comes after this might be, if Trump fails. Ironically, it's exactly Trump's agenda which is most suited to fight real fascism.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by bigfudge on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @01:09PM (#42066547)
Exactly what should government do to fight global inflation largely Caused by fuel prices? Perhaps try to decarbonise… but that’s not very MAGA is it? The reality is inflation is lower in the US than much of the rest of the world and the US economy has weathered recent shocks better than most.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by immibis on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @05:07PM (#42070225)
"Fix everything or else we'll elect Hitler" well they certainly can't fix everything so I guess they might as well resign themselves to having Hitler elected. Why even bother trying in that case?
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by haccount on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:39AM (#42061311)
People are standing in line to vote for an actual literally Hitler because they're tired of gaslighting political takes like yours.

The more Hitlery you advertise them as the more likely they'll get votes. And you will think more gaslight is the solution when it was the root cause for the radicalization.

Enjoy the bed you made

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by thajkn on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:31AM (#42061993)
This is not a historical perspective. Around 1900, it were the socialists who opposed immigration as a tool to drive down wages:

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/international-review...

Back then the right wing were the industrialists who wanted immigration.

Hitler blamed all sorts of people, including the socialists (who were against immigration). Using Hitler to shut down any discussion about immigration is not very productive. Obviously there are limits. Less so in the U.S. because there is more space, but in Europe everyone is already living in tiny overpriced apartments on top of each other.