> Sure - but we're talking about pragmatic considerations. In hindsight, preservation or expansion of abortion rights was not enough to get men to turn out to vote for Harris in sufficient numbers to swing the election, so another kind of message should have been crafted for that voting block.

My stomach dropped when I heard a young men claim that Trump would be better because of his economic policies. To which I reply which ones? Followed by stumbling silence.

This is a young university educated 25 year old men raised in a Social Democrat European developed nation, claiming that Donald Trump would serve American interest and a world economy the best. We are absolutely underestimating the effect of people's world view being shaped by information wars on social media.

Adam Curtis 'Hypernormalisation' now feels like a Nostradamus level prediction of the decades to come.