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Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by hoseja on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @06:03AM (#42059974)
Ok then, remove the greatest polluters. Hint: not the westerners.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by eterps on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @06:26AM (#42060284)
5 logical fallacies in 10 words that's a pretty good score!
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by mandmandam on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @09:01AM (#42062411)
Be fair - I actually count at least 8. That's impressive af for 10 words.

Red herring, whataboutism, false dilemma, straw man, tu quoque, hasty generalization, moral equivalence, and appeal to extremism.

And with a dehumanization cherry on top.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by hoseja on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @10:12AM (#42063527)
Perhaps listing fallacies without adressing the core concern isn't the WINNING strategy you hoped it would be.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by mandmandam on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @10:24AM (#42063717)
My core concern is that you feel comfortable talking about "removing" countries.

My secondary concern is your refusal to acknowledge/engage with the data which was presented to you, both in text and in interactive graphs.

And that's more than enough concern for me to refuse further engagement.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by mandmandam on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @06:29AM (#42060326)
Hang on, what exactly tf do you mean by "remove"?

... Also, yes, the West is responsible for the vast majority of CO2 release. It's not remotely close [0].

* The United States has emitted more CO2 than any other country to date: at around 400 billion tonnes since 1751, it is responsible for 25% of historical emissions [at 4% of world population].

* This is twice more than China – the world’s second-largest national contributor [18% of world population].

* The 28 countries of the European Union (EU-28) – which are grouped here as they typically negotiate and set targets on a collaborative basis – is also a large historical contributor at 22%.

* Many of the large annual emitters today – such as India and Brazil – are not large contributors in a historical context.

* Africa’s regional contribution – relative to its population size – has been very small. This is the result of very low per capita emissions – both historically and currently.

0 - https://ourworldindata.org/contributed-most-global-co2

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by hoseja on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @10:10AM (#42063500)
OK but what does cumulative historic data have to do with anything. It's a dynamic system, it's about of rates of release and removal. Might as well list total contribution by the mammoths.