Why systemd is a problem for embedded Linux

Re:Why systemd is a problem for embedded Linux by sph on Monday November 04, 2024 @05:15AM (#42040154)

Do you have some examples? I have a very hard time imagining a modern Wifi router supporting the latest standards and IPv6, admin web interface and so on running on 16 MB of RAM. I also have issue with "wifi routers in Europe are all 16 or 32 MB of RAM". In what decade?

My ISP provided router also does VPN, VoIP, mesh networking, firewalling, and it's towards the lower end of feature set (as it's offered for free and not a fancy router I bought).

Are you talking about devices from the early 2000?

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Re:Why systemd is a problem for embedded Linux by blueflow on Monday November 04, 2024 @05:55AM (#42040411)

My TP-Link MR3020 from around 2015 only has 4^H 16 MB of ram (4 MB flash) and thus cannot even run OpenWRT anymore.

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Re:Why systemd is a problem for embedded Linux by mbirth on Monday November 04, 2024 @07:01AM (#42040741)

I’ve still got two MR3040. TP-Link hasn’t released any update for them in years. You can run an older version of OpenWrt on them, but there’s no real point. These things don’t even support 5GHz WiFi.

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Re:Why systemd is a problem for embedded Linux by blueflow on Monday November 04, 2024 @07:42AM (#42041000)

Device with very nice design. I still keep it as decorative even when its a brick.

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Re:Why systemd is a problem for embedded Linux by washadjeffmad on Monday November 04, 2024 @09:43AM (#42041937)

I've got a few devices that only support 2.4 B/G. They're not in common use, but using an equally legacy router is the only way for them to connect.

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Re:Why systemd is a problem for embedded Linux by tempaccount420 on Monday November 04, 2024 @08:38AM (#42041413)

2015 was also almost 10 years ago.

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Re:Why systemd is a problem for embedded Linux by blueflow on Monday November 04, 2024 @09:01AM (#42041583)

So i guess its a brick now and there is nothing we can do about it.

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Re:Why systemd is a problem for embedded Linux by bmicraft on Monday November 04, 2024 @10:27AM (#42042393)

Using something that's already been produced (good) is not the same as selling dead end e-waste that's so underspecced it's barely working new (bad).

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Re:Why systemd is a problem for embedded Linux by bmicraft on Monday November 04, 2024 @10:23AM (#42042344)

That thing was overstaying it's welcome for two years even then by staying on WiFi 4. 802.11n was adopted 15 years ago.

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Re:Why systemd is a problem for embedded Linux by 1oooqooq on Thursday November 07, 2024 @05:24PM (#42081778)

every. single. one.

pick any modem from linksys or dlink or netgear. then buy one in south America and compare what's really inside

look at all the revB on openwrt wiki, sometimes ram lowers. sometimes arm cpu change to mediatek. often the wifi chip changes from qualcomm to rtl. and it's always the revisions sold outside of usa and China in the observation fields.

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