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Re:An embarrassingly simple approach to recover unlearned kn... by DeathArrow on Monday November 04, 2024 @03:47AM (#42039711)
How would people censor the LLM otherwise? Do we really want LLM able of free speech?
Re:An embarrassingly simple approach to recover unlearned kn... by lynx23 on Monday November 04, 2024 @03:57AM (#42039762)
Yes.
Re:An embarrassingly simple approach to recover unlearned kn... by Imustaskforhelp on Monday November 04, 2024 @05:13AM (#42040150)
care to elaborate? I think its a double edged sword and agree with deatharrow
Re:An embarrassingly simple approach to recover unlearned kn... by null0pointer on Monday November 04, 2024 @11:13PM (#42048541)
I can write a computer program the spews all manner of profane things. If I were to release a product that does that I’m sure it would be much criticized and ultimately unsuccessful. Yet this doesn’t mean we should cripple the programming language to prevent this. Models are much more akin to programming languages than they are to products. If they are used to make products that do things people don’t like then people will not use those products.
Re:An embarrassingly simple approach to recover unlearned kn... by Imustaskforhelp on Tuesday November 05, 2024 @12:43AM (#42048884)
you are comparing ai to programming language but programming language if uncensored doesn't have the ability to wreck humanity but uncensored ai sure does.

I would actually be curious if someone uses it for uncensoring because I am gonna be curious about how different would it be to the original model

But aside from that curiosity , this idea can increase no of cyber criminals , drug suppliers and a hell lot more

Re:An embarrassingly simple approach to recover unlearned kn... by lynx23 on Tuesday November 05, 2024 @01:16AM (#42049006)
> wreck humanity but uncensored ai sure does

Care to elaborate how uncensored AI would "wreck humanity"? You seem convinced, since you use the word "sure", so I'd like to hear your reasoning.

Re:An embarrassingly simple approach to recover unlearned kn... by animuchan on Monday November 04, 2024 @05:15AM (#42040153)
I do think we only want the non-lobotomized ones.

See the large body of comments re: getting worse quality results from hosted LLM services as time passes. This is, at least in part, a result of censoring larger and larger volumes of knowledge.

One clinical example of this happening is Gemini refusing to help with C++ because it's an unsafe language: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1b75vq0/gemini_...

I strongly believe that LLMs crippled in this way will eventually find themselves in trash, where they rightfully belong.

Re:An embarrassingly simple approach to recover unlearned kn... by DeathArrow on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @03:58AM (#42058263)
Totally agree. And that's why x.ai are building Grok.
Re:An embarrassingly simple approach to recover unlearned kn... by jazzyjackson on Monday November 04, 2024 @08:14AM (#42041224)
LLMs don't speak. Why does it matter at all what text a computer program produces?