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Re:Chain-of-Thought Can Hurt Performance on Tasks Where Thin... by WD-42 on Thursday October 31, 2024 @11:06AM (#42007669)
I don’t buy this. My child communicates with me using emotion and other cues because she can’t speak yet. I don’t know much about early humans or other sapiens but I imagine they communicated long before complex language evolved. These other means of communication are not second order, they are first order.
Re:Chain-of-Thought Can Hurt Performance on Tasks Where Thin... by elif on Thursday October 31, 2024 @11:26AM (#42007863)
Yep agree with the core of what you are saying.

Children are exceptional at being immediate, being present in the moment.

It's through learning language that we forget about reality and replace it with concepts.

Re:Chain-of-Thought Can Hurt Performance on Tasks Where Thin... by elif on Thursday October 31, 2024 @11:28AM (#42007874)
Also remember the "emotions" and "cues" you are recognizing are linguistic concepts you've adopted, and not an inherent aspect of reality.
Re:Chain-of-Thought Can Hurt Performance on Tasks Where Thin... by Jarwain on Thursday October 31, 2024 @03:40PM (#42010681)
Not exactly.

Emotions exist. You feel them. I feel them. Most people feel them unless they've suppressed them sooo far into their subconscious that they don't have a conscious recognition of it. We can know how someone else is feeling by reading their body language and tying that to our personal experience of how we express those feelings. No linguistics necessary.

Language is just an easier, more clear way of communicating these fundamental facets of human existence

Re:Chain-of-Thought Can Hurt Performance on Tasks Where Thin... by elif on Friday November 01, 2024 @02:24PM (#42020019)
You feel them, but do antisocial animals feel them? Or are emotions derived from mental concepts developed socially through evolution?