Are you aware that i9-9900K was launched six years ago [0], two years before Apple Silicon? It's nothing to compare to an Apple M4.

[0] https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/186605/...

Sure, that M4 Pro is a bit faster, but not even twice as fast. It's more energy efficient, that I give to you.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i9-9900K...

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Apple+M4+10+Core&id...

And TFA goes on and on about how the Mac Mini is like 20x faster than i9.

… you see how massive that comp you posted is, right? You see it, don’t you?

You’re comparing a used Tower to an Apple TV sized device.

Is this a problem? My PC sits under my desk. I only see it when I vacuum the floor.

You’re right, your setup is the only one that matters.

I wonder why Apple bothers making small, efficient things when you don’t need it?

It's not really reasonable to compare prices of a used machine with a new one though.

Why not? As long as you discount the price of the new product by the perceived value of new vs used, that’s the correct comparison to make. If a used product is the same quality and $100 cheaper, and just having something that’s new is not worth $100 to you, you should pick the used option. The goal is to get the best value per money spent.

mental gymnastics; used is not new. even new isn't necessarily new when it's not sold by an authorized seller because it can invalidate the warranty.

new is new and has legal ramifications, you cannot compare them unless you're throwing in a trustworthy extended warranty that matches -- and pretty much nothing matches apple in that regard

Well you have to consider the differences but you can absolutely compare them when you want to decide what you buy.

> I don't think Apple fanboys understand

Why start off by calling people fanboys? It seems like you're looking for an argument instead of a genuine conversation.

Microsoft Windows is a non-starter though.

Better fix your boot loader then.

It runs Linux or BSD just fine.

Half as slow and this is just in general CPU. Not getting into power efficiency, noise, size... etc... etc....

That ebay link is a used item.

sigh another Windows fanboy pushing inferior hardware for an inferior OS.

The lot of us grew out of gaming in our teens and do real work now.

You realize you can run Linux or BSD on that hardware?

And when something goes wrong, I can just walk into one of the hundreds of eBay, Amazon, or HP stores around the world for free help?

I don't think Windows fanboys understand real people care about more than numbers.