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Re:GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic by gonab on Tuesday October 29, 2024 @01:05PM (#41986685)
Conversely I feel that the experience of searching has been degraded by a lot since 2016/17. My these is that, at this time, online spam increased by an order of magnitude
Re:GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic by state_less on Tuesday October 29, 2024 @01:50PM (#41987394)
Old style Google search is dead, folks just haven’t closed the casket yet. My index queries are down ~90%. In the future, we’ll look back at LLMs as a major turning point in how people retrieve and consume information.
Re:GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic by darepublic on Tuesday October 29, 2024 @02:53PM (#41988069)
I still prefer it over using llm. And I would be doubtful that llm search has major benefits over Google search imo
Re:GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic by ben_w on Tuesday October 29, 2024 @03:08PM (#41988221)
Depends what you want it for.

Right now, I find each tool better at different things.

If I can only describe what I want but don't know key words, LLM are the only solution.

If I need citations, LLMs suck.

Re:GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic by esafak on Tuesday October 29, 2024 @10:08PM (#41991284)
Abstractive vs. extractive search.
Re:GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic by dageshi on Tuesday October 29, 2024 @01:46PM (#41987336)
I think it was the switch from desktop search traffic being dominant to mobile traffic being dominant, that switch happened around the end of 2016.

Google used to prioritise big comprehensive articles on subjects for desktop users but mobile users just wanted quick answers, so that's what google prioritised as they became the biggest users.

But also, per your point, I think those smaller simpler less comprehensive posts are easier to fake/spam than the larger more compreshensible posts that came before.

Re:GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic by zeknife on Tuesday October 29, 2024 @04:17PM (#41988880)
Ironically, I almost never see quick answers in the top results, mostly it's dragged out pages of paragraph after paragraph with ads inbetween.
Re:GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic by dartos on Tuesday October 29, 2024 @04:29PM (#41989014)
Guess who sells the ads…
Re:GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic by bobthepanda on Tuesday October 29, 2024 @01:23PM (#41986985)
Winning the war against spam is an arms race. Spam hasn’t spent years targeting AI search yet.
Re:GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic by TeaBrain on Tuesday October 29, 2024 @01:11PM (#41986798)
I don't think this is necessarily converse to what they said.
Re:GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK on Tuesday October 29, 2024 @06:16PM (#41989989)
It's getting ridiculous. Half of the time now when I ask AI to search some information for me, it finds and summarizes some very long article obviously written by AI, and lacking any useful information.
Re:GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic by th0ma5 on Wednesday October 30, 2024 @02:42AM (#41992373)
Queries were rewritten with BERT starting even before then so it's still the same generative model problem.