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Re:New Mac Mini with M4 by makeitdouble on Tuesday October 29, 2024 @11:52AM (#41985439)
> This seems small, but it would have been almost blasphemy under the jobs era.

I feel like Jobs was a lot more pragmatic than we give him credit for. I mean we had the HP iPods, iTunes on Windows etc.

And the iMac's catch copy was "BYODKM" at the very start, fully putting the spotlight on third parties and composability.

Re:New Mac Mini with M4 by ethagknight on Tuesday October 29, 2024 @12:11PM (#41985763)
I've followed Apple all my life and never heard of HP iPods!
Re:New Mac Mini with M4 by etempleton on Tuesday October 29, 2024 @12:20PM (#41985911)
It was a weird win-win for Apple if I remember correctly. They were able to sell more iPods, get iTunes installed on all HP machines, and block HP from creating a rival music player. I honestly am not sure what HP got beyond the logo on the back of some iPods and the ability to try and associate themselves with a popular and cool product.
Re:New Mac Mini with M4 by sgerenser on Tuesday October 29, 2024 @01:07PM (#41986713)
I think HP in that era was definitely trying to be more "popular and cool." Not sure how much it really helped though.
Re:New Mac Mini with M4 by throwaway48476 on Tuesday October 29, 2024 @02:23PM (#41987754)
HP of the era was falling apart and making stupid acquisitions.
Re:New Mac Mini with M4 by ethagknight on Thursday October 31, 2024 @01:55PM (#42009489)
Would that have been pre-apple store, an effort to use HP's distribution/sales channels to get iPod into, like CompUSA or CircuitCity?
Re:New Mac Mini with M4 by seec on Wednesday October 30, 2024 @06:57PM (#42001441)
Jobs was extremely pragmatic, which is why for all his fault Apple would always come up with a desirable technological solution. Most things said about Jobs are pop culture caricature derived from peoples talking shit about him (mostly because of success jaleousy).
Re:New Mac Mini with M4 by fennecbutt on Thursday October 31, 2024 @09:30PM (#42013227)
Did you know him?
Re:New Mac Mini with M4 by seec on Thursday October 31, 2024 @10:58PM (#42013665)
Are you idiotic? I can play the game too.
Re:New Mac Mini with M4 by al_borland on Wednesday October 30, 2024 @10:46PM (#42002964)
> And the iMac's catch copy was "BYODKM" at the very start

I think you meany Mac mini there. It was definitely built as the gateway into the Mac ecosystem. Swap your tower for a Mac mini, and keep using the rest of your old hardware.