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Re:Live CERN Higgs Announcement in 20 Mins by guelo on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @03:52AM (#4198199)
Final (CMS) summary: We have observed a new boson with a mass of 125.3 +/- 0.6 GeV at 4.9σ significance!

Atlas comes in at ~126.5 GeV with 5.0σ. That would be a confirmed discovery!

Interesting that Atlas' mass is outside CMS's confidence range, though Atlas didn't have a range on theirs.

Re:Live CERN Higgs Announcement in 20 Mins by diminish on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @03:58AM (#4198228)
Are there any other theorized boson candidates, which may fit the experiment results or is Higgs Boson the only candidate?
Re:Live CERN Higgs Announcement in 20 Mins by yk on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @05:49AM (#4198658)
Short answer: They discovered a particle which looks like a Higgs Boson.

They are talking about the standard model Higgs, which is the result of a specific way to break electroweak symmetry. A consequence is, that there are quite well understood predictions from this how the cross sections and branching ratios should look like. And on the current level of statistical significance it looks like a standard model Higgs.

On the other hand, there are so called effective field theories, that is you can start from a complicated theory and derive a simpler theory from it, which behaves the same in some aspects (for example at low energies).

So the more exact answer is probably that now a theory has to contain a Higgs boson in the appropriate limit.

Re:Live CERN Higgs Announcement in 20 Mins by InclinedPlane on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @06:06AM (#4198709)
The error bars on the mass range are typically just 1 sigma, so there's considerable overlap between the two figures (the Atlas figure is within the 95% confidence interval for the CMS figure, for example).
Re:Live CERN Higgs Announcement in 20 Mins by gorak on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @03:59AM (#4198235)
Hawking owes Kane $100!
Re:Live CERN Higgs Announcement in 20 Mins by bingbing on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @09:36AM (#4199356)
Re:Live CERN Higgs Announcement in 20 Mins by modarts on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @04:12AM (#4198282)
I wouldn't think Hawking would be betting on such a result.
Re:Live CERN Higgs Announcement in 20 Mins by gorak on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @04:45AM (#4198406)
In 2000, Hawking bet Gordon Kane $100 that the Higgs Boson would never be found.
Re:Live CERN Higgs Announcement in 20 Mins by toemetoch on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @05:58AM (#4198685)
In December 2000, Hawking bet Gordon Kane $100 that the Higgs Boson will be discovered at the Fermilab Tevatron.

Since the funding dried up for the Tevatron and the first hints for the discovery of the Higgs boson come from LHC we can conclude that Hawking won the bet and Kane will be the one paying up.

Re:Live CERN Higgs Announcement in 20 Mins by toemetoch on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @10:40AM (#4199571)
This just in: "Stephen Hawking on Higgs: 'Discovery has lost me $100'"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18708626

Re:Live CERN Higgs Announcement in 20 Mins by modarts on Thursday July 05, 2012 @02:57AM (#4202045)
That look he gives at the end really makes me tear up. What a great sentiment.
Re:Live CERN Higgs Announcement in 20 Mins by Maro on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @03:55AM (#4198218)
There are 2 big experiments (detectors) at LHC. This is for the CMS detector. Next up is Atlas.

Clarification:

http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/lhc/LHCExperiments-en.ht...

Re:Live CERN Higgs Announcement in 20 Mins by Devilboy on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @03:56AM (#4198225)
Could we combine the ATLAS results to get over the 5 sigma mark?
Re:Live CERN Higgs Announcement in 20 Mins by Maro on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @04:01AM (#4198241)
It's possible to combine the data and get a higer significance. AFAIK, Officially, CERN doesn't do these combinations, but independent people do. See here:

http://blog.vixra.org/

Re:Live CERN Higgs Announcement in 20 Mins by mattheww on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @04:25AM (#4198331)
CMS and ATLAS will do an official combination. For example, it was done for 2011: http://arxiv.org/abs/1202.1488.
Re:Live CERN Higgs Announcement in 20 Mins by Maro on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @07:55AM (#4198992)
This paper combines different channels from CMS, but not CMS and ATLAS.

"In this Letter, we report on the combination of Higgs boson searches carried out in proton-proton collisions at Sqrt[s] = 7 TeV using the Compact Muon Solenoid (CMS) detector at the LHC. ... Combined results are reported from searches for the SM Higgs boson in proton-proton collisions at Sqrt[s] = 7TeV in five Higgs boson decay modes: gg, bb, tt, WW, and ZZ."

Re:Live CERN Higgs Announcement in 20 Mins by karpathy on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @04:15AM (#4198290)
Any idea about what prevents them from combining the data?
Re:Live CERN Higgs Announcement in 20 Mins by DeepDuh on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @04:28AM (#4198338)
Those two detectors are attached to the same accelerator, right? My guess is they don't because they cannot guarantee the results to be independent from each other?
Re:Live CERN Higgs Announcement in 20 Mins by zbyszek on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @08:15AM (#4199060)
Re:Live CERN Higgs Announcement in 20 Mins by raverbashing on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @03:59AM (#4198237)
Charge? Color charge?

Since this is apparently "only seen" through the Monte Carlo analysis I suppose they haven't seen one specific particle decay with it, I suppose?!