In any case: (1) there has never been a "civil war" in Ukraine in modern times; (2) Azov was formed in May 2014, well after Russia's invasions of both the Donbas and the Crimea were well underway; and (3) nevermind the rest.
And BTW, speaking about Azov:
In 2016, Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch received several credible allegations of abuse and torture by the regiment. Reports published by the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) documented looting of civilian homes and unlawful detention and torture of civilians between September 2014 and February 2015 "by Ukrainian armed forces and the Azov regiment in and around Shyrokyne".
Another OHCHR report documented an instance of rape and torture, writing: "A man with a mental disability was subject to cruel treatment, rape and other forms of sexual violence by 8 to 10 members of the 'Azov' and the 'Donbas' battalions (both Ukrainian battalions) in August–September 2014. The victim's health subsequently deteriorated and he was hospitalized in a psychiatric hospital." A report from January 2015 stated that a Donetsk People's Republic supporter was detained and tortured with electricity and waterboarding and struck repeatedly on his genitals, which resulted in his confessing to spying for pro-Russian militants.
Battalion Azov was created on May 5, 2014 along with other battalions of the Special Purpose Police Patrol Service (SPPS) on the basis of a decision of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine.
And BTW, speaking about Azov [they're not nice, etc]
Which is of course irrelevant to the perversely broken chronological narrative under discussion here.
That's the usual propaganda that spreads on wiki, Azov was (officially) founded as a para military group in February 2014 (I wrongly wrote 2024 in my previous post).
CIA disinformation is not information. Azov is just one of the many incarnations of the US foreign policy, it's the same thing they do every time: they train far right extremists (azov is a neo-nazi group) then they pretend we believe they are self formed organizations, spontaneously born. It's the Afghan mujahideen of the Soviet–Afghan War all over again, been there, seen that, etc. etc.
I am European, I cooperate with news agencies, I can discern truth from lies.
And why should we believe you? Because you say so?
Because you've been to Ibiza?
Because it's written here https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/12ª_Brigata_operazioni_special...
Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Brigade#History
According to right‑wing radicalism researcher Vyacheslav Likhachev, Azov had many roots. The brigade was founded by the activists of Patriot of Ukraine, Automaidan, Social-National Assembly and other organisations active during the Euromaidan.
Euromaidan took place between 21 November 2013 and 22 February 2014.
You do the math.
Blame Wikipedia, not me
Anyway, if you really don't know what "people from ibizia" is, your loss!
Pointing to a footnote that explodes into 15 other footnotes.
Meaning none of them actually apply.
If you have some broader point to make about Azov -- make it. Lemme guess: some variant of "Just forget Ukraine and support Trump's capitulation plan, because Azov, ooh, scary".
It miserably failed and now we are left to pick up the pieces of the NATO/US failures, will they ever learn that nazis are not to be helped, ever? No, they won't. They'll run, as they always do, as they did in Afghanistan last time and countless other times.
Nazis are not welcome in my Europe and if I have to ever side with Putin to defeat them, I will, like in WWII when Roosevelt helped Stalin defeat Hitler on the eastern front, without the USSR there would be no free Europe today, forget about it.
Ukrain is the trojan horse to bring back nationalism and nazi-fascism in Europe, it benefits the USA, but it will destroy Europe.
So it is important to know the truth: the azov battalion is the same people who shot and killed several people in the maidan massacre and then blamed Yanukovych, helped by US secret services and propaganda.
The verdict, handed down on October 18, 2023, states specifically that this hotel was controlled by Maidan activists and that an armed, far-right-linked Maidan group was in the hotel and fired from it. It also confirms that there was no Russian involvement in the massacre and that no massacre orders were issued by then President Viktor Yanukovych or his ministers. The verdict concludes that the Euromaidan was at the time of this massacre not a peaceful protest but a “rebellion” that involved the killing of Berkut and other police personnel.
Notably, the massacre precipitated the violent overthrow of Yanukovych and his government, who were falsely blamed for carrying it out. It then spiralled into the Russian annexation of Crimea, the subsequent civil war and Russian interventions in the Donbas, and the conflicts between Ukraine and Russia, and between Russia and the Western powers, which Russia dramatically escalated with its illegal invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022.
There has been, however, a blackout of the verdict’s confirmation of the Maidan snipers in the Ukrainian media and, with a few notable exceptions, the Western mainstream media. Moreover, in an op-ed piece in The Bulwark, an online neoconservative magazine, author Cathy Young misrepresented the verdict, falsely claiming that it had found the Berkut police responsible for the deaths of 40 of the 48 protesters killed
See https://reyestr.court.gov.ua/Review/114304164
You stupid nazi fuck.
If Americans want to participate in international communities they are free to leave the US. Aren't they?
BTW Linus is Finnish and Sergey Mikhailovich Brin is Russian
The harsh reality is that the west is now that place where people think it's a crime to be born in a place instead of another...
I'll quote something for you
criminalizing individuals based on their place of birth or nationality is generally considered a violation of international human rights law. Principles of non-discrimination are central to international agreements like the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. These treaties emphasize that all people, regardless of origin, have the right to equality before the law and protection from discrimination.