Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, says leaked report

Re:Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, ... by dragonwriter on Thursday October 24, 2024 @08:47PM (#41941272)

> Israel is a satellite state of the US in all but name.

The US is more reflexively pro-Israel than Israel is pro-US in international policy, the opposite of what you’d expect if Israel was a US vassal.

> What ive always wondered is why the US hasn't put Israel on the security council

There are lots of reasons, but one that renders all the others secondary is that the US can’t add permanent Security Council members.

> considering it is a nuclear armed state.

India, Pakistan, North Korea, and, when it was a nuclear-armed state, South Africa also are (and were) not permanent UNSC members, a set whuch hasn't expanded, though two seats have switched hands, since the UN was founded.

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Re:Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, ... by renegade-otter on Thursday October 24, 2024 @09:02PM (#41941360)

Yet Russia, a country the leader of which is wanted for war crimes - is on the permanent Security Council.

The whole organization needs to be uprooted and rebuilt. It's become a farce.

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Re:Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, ... by everforward on Thursday October 24, 2024 @09:14PM (#41941430)

Russia is there because they wouldn’t even come to the table otherwise, and it’s more valuable to have a hobbled organization than one that doesn’t include significant powers. The others don’t have permanent slots because they joined when they had less power, or they never gained enough power to bargain.

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Re:Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, ... by type0 on Friday October 25, 2024 @08:28PM (#41951465)

Russia isn't a founding member because they're not the same as Soviet Union. Ukraine on the other hand is one of the founding members.

Just by allowing Russia to keep the permanent seat of USSR legitimizes their revanchist goals to regain the territories they controlled during the cold war

The best move UN could do is to kick Russia out of permanent seat as it was done with Republic of China, US has the mechanisms to do it but sadly they never will

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Re:Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, ... by whamlastxmas on Thursday October 24, 2024 @09:12PM (#41941420)

Multiple recent American presidents also committed war crimes

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Re:Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, ... by SauciestGNU on Thursday October 24, 2024 @09:36PM (#41941534)

The set of American presidents who haven't would be more easily enumerable/null.

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Re:Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, ... by renegade-otter on Friday October 25, 2024 @01:46PM (#41947626)

We can discuss American misadventures and horrible decisions in the aftermath of 9/11, but equating the U.S. military to Russia, which effectively has rape and torture as part of its doctrine, is more than a stretch.

To be clear, I totally expected a comment like that, but I can guarantee you 1000% that no Ukrainians will be hanging on to Russian cargo plane wheels once they are booted out.

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Re:Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, ... by whamlastxmas on Saturday October 26, 2024 @11:08AM (#41955203)

Guantanamo was and is a thing, there are literally handbooks on how to torture used by the American military. The American military also has a long, rich history of systemic sexual assault. Heck one of my friends was sexually assaulted by a service member to the point of hospitalization and he received no punishment or recourse. I also think reporting on Russian military by western media is largely propaganda, it’s hard to know what’s true and take.

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Re:Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, ... by renegade-otter on Saturday October 26, 2024 @06:16PM (#41958131)

Well, you can't just show your cards THAT quickly. It's so hard to know! You can see the leveled cities from space, but "everything is possible and nothing is true". Okay.

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Re:Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, ... by rasz on Thursday October 24, 2024 @11:18PM (#41941942)

United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres just bowed to putin yesterday https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/world/3201518/brics-...

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Re:Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, ... by red-iron-pine on Friday October 25, 2024 @10:32AM (#41945652)

the permanent seats on the security counsel are the winners of WW2.

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