Life expectancy rise in rich countries slows down: took 30 years to prove

Re:Life expectancy rise in rich countries slows down: took 3... by EasyMark on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @08:07PM (#41854356)

That’s a bizarre hill to die on, I see all kinds of larger people survive into their 90s when I was living near and volunteering at a nursing home as a teenager

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Re:Life expectancy rise in rich countries slows down: took 3... by WillPostForFood on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @08:59PM (#41854658)

I see all kinds of larger people survive into their 90s

So dangerous to extrapolate from anecdotal observation like this. If I see old people smoking, doesn't mean smoking is safe. It just means it doesn't kill at 100% effectiveness.

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Re:Life expectancy rise in rich countries slows down: took 3... by koolba on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @10:24PM (#41855031)

> It just means it doesn't kill at 100% effectiveness.

If you wait long enough, everything has a 100% effectiveness.

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Re:Life expectancy rise in rich countries slows down: took 3... by rKarpinski on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @10:55PM (#41855159)

if you wait long enough, obesity actually becomes a protective factor for serious issues; like Falling & Sarcopenia.

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Re:Life expectancy rise in rich countries slows down: took 3... by dyauspitr on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @09:33PM (#41854786)

I see “plenty” of life long smokers making it to their 80s and 90s too, that doesn’t mean it didn’t take out 90% of them along the way.

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Re:Life expectancy rise in rich countries slows down: took 3... by s1artibartfast on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @11:46AM (#41860460)

Good example of how people overestimate the impact of these things. Closer to 10% of smokers get lung cancer.

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Re:Life expectancy rise in rich countries slows down: took 3... by dyauspitr on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @03:18PM (#41862768)

But COPD, Emphysema and cardio vascular issues also affect smokers, it’s not just lung cancer.

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Re:Life expectancy rise in rich countries slows down: took 3... by s1artibartfast on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @07:15PM (#41864855)

Sure.but I don't think it escalates to a 90% death rate

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Re:Life expectancy rise in rich countries slows down: took 3... by baueric on Thursday October 17, 2024 @11:44AM (#41870732)

It's actually a 100% death rate as all smokers sure. Jokes aside, your statement doesn't have meaning. Many deaths are not attributable to a single cause. However, it's been studies endlessly and is well accepted that smoking increases all-cause mortality.

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Re:Life expectancy rise in rich countries slows down: took 3... by s1artibartfast on Thursday October 17, 2024 @03:38PM (#41873022)

Im not arguing against that at all. I was making a point about the magnitude of that impact.

People tend to over-estimate the impact of both smoking and obesity.

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Re:Life expectancy rise in rich countries slows down: took 3... by renewiltord on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @09:49PM (#41854860)

That’s the funny thing: at homes and nursing homes all around America you will find WW2 veterans. One could conclude that WW2 wasn’t dangerous from that, I suppose.

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Re:Life expectancy rise in rich countries slows down: took 3... by s1artibartfast on Thursday October 17, 2024 @03:40PM (#41873038)

You could conclude that WW2 wasnt 100% fatal. Actual death rates was about 1 in 40, ie 2.5%

Depending on your priors, This may be a lot or not

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Re:Life expectancy rise in rich countries slows down: took 3... by kaibee on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @01:28PM (#41861554)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias

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