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Re:The Retreat to Muskworld by grecy on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @04:11AM (#41846151)
> So far he seems to be terribly wrong on self-driving.

Like all breakthroughs, he will be terribly wrong right up to the point he isn’t (see the fail compilation video of failed Falcon9 landings)

You only fail when you give up.

Re:The Retreat to Muskworld by roca on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @04:36AM (#41846351)
Nothing that happens in the future can negate the fact that he promised autonomous driving would available in Telsas by now (actually long before now), and it isn't.

Tesla can never be the first to large-scale autonomous driving since Waymo is already delivering it. Sure, Tesla will probably deliver it eventually. Whether they can overtake Waymo's rollout is the open question.

Re:The Retreat to Muskworld by vardump on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @04:40AM (#41846381)
Waymo is hardly large scale.
Re:The Retreat to Muskworld by roca on Thursday October 17, 2024 @06:02AM (#41868045)
100,000 trips a week meets some reasonable definition of "large scale".
Re:The Retreat to Muskworld by grecy on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @05:40AM (#41846766)
> Nothing that happens in the future can negate the fact that he promised autonomous driving would available in Telsas by now (actually long before now), and it isn't.

Absolutely, he is well known for setting extremely optimistic stretch goal timelines, and is almost always late. In virtually every case he is still years or decades before the competition, with autonomous driving being the biggest miss to date.

He certainly does deliver though.

Given that Tesla are currently making 2 million cars per year and have 5 million on the road, I think it extremely likely they will have by far the biggest autonomous fleet.