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Re:Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant modal sh... by rstuart4133 on Sunday October 13, 2024 @04:55PM (#41831509)
> What social contract? That's a convenient fiction, but no one ever agreed to any social contract anywhere. My adopted home of Singapore goes a lot harder on private initiative than Thatcher and Reagan ever dreamed off.

Do you chew gum when you are at home in Singapore? No, you don't, because it's illegal. Did you agree to that, were even you given a choice? No, of course not.

Singapore is more authoritarian than most liberal democracies. That means you do as your told. That's the social contract. If you disagree with the people in power to loudly, you got to rot in jail. https://www.smh.com.au/world/lee-kuan-yew-a-towering-figure-...

As it happens, Singapore got lucky. The people in charge are good at running a country efficiently. In particular, they didn't line their own pockets too aggressively - certainly not in a way that was out of line with liberal democracies. The Singapore it's an outlier compared to other authoritarian countries. Generally, once politicians eliminate the competition, they use their control to milk the economy for all they are worth.

Re:Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant modal sh... by eru on Monday October 14, 2024 @05:10AM (#41835692)
> Do you chew gum when you are at home in Singapore? No, you don't, because it's illegal. Did you agree to that, were even you given a choice? No, of course not.

It's more like a license than a contract.

> Singapore is more authoritarian than most liberal democracies.

The Singaporean government is a smaller part of life than in most other places. Much less red tape to fill out before you are allowed to do anything and regulations are simpler.

Yes, there are some weird regulations about how you can say things. But they affect the form more than the substance. You are pretty much allowed to say whatever you want, just not however you want it.

Yes, Singapore got lucky in that they had (and have) a hardworking population, and competent leadership.

Why do you insist that Singapore is authoritarian? We have free and fair elections, that are regularly observed to be so by international organisations.

Re:Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant modal sh... by fennecfoxy on Monday October 14, 2024 @05:59AM (#41835952)
Well I'm not going back to Singapore until they treat gay men like myself better. I've been there; Singapore is a private money pit/playground for Western and Asian high business, much like Dubai.
Re:Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant modal sh... by eru on Monday October 14, 2024 @09:07AM (#41837154)
When have you last been? They have recently improved the de jure treatment of gay people. (The de facto treatment hasn't changed.)

I agree that the laws about homosexuality are weird, but they are also democratic: it's broadly in line with what the population wants as far as I can tell.

Re:Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant modal sh... by consteval on Monday October 14, 2024 @12:38PM (#41839173)
That's not what democratic means. If the people did not vote on them, it's not democratic, even if it appears as though they would hypothetically vote for it.
Re:Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant modal sh... by eru on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @06:17AM (#41847001)
Huh? The people voted for the government that implemented the policy. Just like with every policy in any representative democracy anywhere around the world.